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England - what happened?
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AJtothemax
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England - what happened?
Honestly, English football should learn something from English Rugby: How NOT to give up and to keep on fighting.
They just didn't want it enough.
They just didn't want it enough.
AJ
"First with your head and then with your heart. Don't stop."
"First with your head and then with your heart. Don't stop."
I think its a blessing in disguise for you. I think England have problems that need sorting (both on and off the pitch) and qualifying would have pulled the wool over the eyes a bit. This way they should have the problems sorted in time for the world cup. Thats the theory out the way anyway.
I for one and looking forward to the possibility of a home nations next year because England won't walk it - not by a long way. Good player, average team.
I for one and looking forward to the possibility of a home nations next year because England won't walk it - not by a long way. Good player, average team.
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Yeah, me too (feeling sorry for the keeper, I haven't played in goal before!), big game for him to come in with not much international experiance. He must feel bad but it wasn't all his fault. For that second goal, where were the defenders? It was one on one with the goalie with no support.PAGreenwell wrote:Felt sorry for the keeper, I've played in goal and they are the most difficult shots to deal with.
Good job I'm not much of a football fan!
But even I don't think they deserved to go through. Also, what do you think of just having one up front? Crouch played well, but with no support.David
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I love it when every year England play crap and people put it down to lack of effort or blame it on the managers, as if England were meant to qualify and they were somehow cheated out of the inevitable.
It's time people just face reality - there are better teams than England. They got beat last night because Croatia were a better team. True, England didn't play too well, but don't forget that there are two teams to every game.
As for McClaren, he might not be the best manager tactically but the public are hypocritical to blame him. They got rid of one of the best England managers ever - Sven - to the delight of the media and the public and then replaced him with a mediocre one (but only after the media scared Scolari off).
England need to keep McClaren. Placing the blame on one man isn't helping anyone, and changing the manager every time England don't succeed isn't helping chances of future success. The players are not the best in the world and don't play well as a team, so changing the regime every couple of years or less does nothing to help.
England do not produce enough world-class players to fill a side. This is not because of the amount of foreign players, but more than anyting the failure by the country as a whole to recognise talented players and assist them to achieve their dreams. So many young players are never given a chance to achieve their full potential. I see players every Sunday who could probably put current Premiership players in the shade, if only they were given the chance. More notice could be given to amateur players than professionals.
England did not deserve to qualify - not because of poor management, or lack of tactics, but simply because England is not a consistently good international team. Even when they win they generally do not excite.
It's time people just face reality - there are better teams than England. They got beat last night because Croatia were a better team. True, England didn't play too well, but don't forget that there are two teams to every game.
As for McClaren, he might not be the best manager tactically but the public are hypocritical to blame him. They got rid of one of the best England managers ever - Sven - to the delight of the media and the public and then replaced him with a mediocre one (but only after the media scared Scolari off).
England need to keep McClaren. Placing the blame on one man isn't helping anyone, and changing the manager every time England don't succeed isn't helping chances of future success. The players are not the best in the world and don't play well as a team, so changing the regime every couple of years or less does nothing to help.
England do not produce enough world-class players to fill a side. This is not because of the amount of foreign players, but more than anyting the failure by the country as a whole to recognise talented players and assist them to achieve their dreams. So many young players are never given a chance to achieve their full potential. I see players every Sunday who could probably put current Premiership players in the shade, if only they were given the chance. More notice could be given to amateur players than professionals.
England did not deserve to qualify - not because of poor management, or lack of tactics, but simply because England is not a consistently good international team. Even when they win they generally do not excite.
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davidemmerson
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No, England aren't the most exciting football team around and neither should ALL the blame be heeped on the manager. He can't control the player's actions on the pitch and it pisses me off when every ones first port of call is to blame the manager.
It doesn't work like that in cricket or football, so why football? I think the team spirit just isn't the same.
David
It doesn't work like that in cricket or football, so why football? I think the team spirit just isn't the same.
David
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I can't help but smile at the comments about lack of effort or 'spirit', as if a motivational half time talk by McClaren was going to turn a bunch of mediocre players who play like a pub team into players fit for European competition. Lack of spirit, that's bull.
England need to put their ego behind them and accept that loss is a very real prospect. Only then can they learn how to play well without having to keep on switching the squad or managers around in the hope that, through trial and error, a winning combination will somehow be selected.
The logic of some people seems to be that if we had a better manager England would be contendors for World cup or European success. England have not been serious contenders for 41 years, and back then football was a lot different than it is now.
England need to put their ego behind them and accept that loss is a very real prospect. Only then can they learn how to play well without having to keep on switching the squad or managers around in the hope that, through trial and error, a winning combination will somehow be selected.
The logic of some people seems to be that if we had a better manager England would be contendors for World cup or European success. England have not been serious contenders for 41 years, and back then football was a lot different than it is now.
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McClaren may not be the best manager, but he has still been turned into a scapegoat as far as I'm concerned - by the FA, by the media, by the fans. England have not got the ability to win anything, and don't deserve to win anything because of many of their fans who seem to think as a team England has got a divine right to win. Many of them are spoilt c**ts in my opinion - armchair commentators who demand success. I support Liverpool, but internationally I'm going to follow the rugby closer than the footy from now on, not because of the team or the manager, but the fans. There is no pride in the footy any more.
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