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Longer Vs Shorter run

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I didnt't really want to make a new post about this but there seems to be a bit of a mixed opinion on past threads. I got a GPS Heart rate monitor for crimbo and have been using it since I started training again (after a christmas infection). I've noticed that even when running at what I would call a steady pace (8-9min/mile), my heart rate is still between 165 and 185 (upto 190 when running up hills). Now, according to many sources, your aerobic training zone is between 70%-80% of you maximum heart (which is about 220 minus your age, so my maximum is 200). So i've started running distances of 5 miles+ everyday this week and keeping my speed between 8-9 min mile pace. I don't go all out on these runs, but I'm definately knackered by the end and my legs ache. I'm going to do some sprints in the middle (interval sprints) to get my heart rate up, and I finish faster than the rest on the run.


What I'm getting at, is do you think this is effective training to get fit for PRMC?
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lodgi wrote:I didnt't really want to make a new post about this but there seems to be a bit of a mixed opinion on past threads. I got a GPS Heart rate monitor for crimbo and have been using it since I started training again (after a christmas infection). I've noticed that even when running at what I would call a steady pace (8-9min/mile), my heart rate is still between 165 and 185 (upto 190 when running up hills). Now, according to many sources, your aerobic training zone is between 70%-80% of you maximum heart (which is about 220 minus your age, so my maximum is 200). So i've started running distances of 5 miles+ everyday this week and keeping my speed between 8-9 min mile pace. I don't go all out on these runs, but I'm definately knackered by the end and my legs ache. I'm going to do some sprints in the middle (interval sprints) to get my heart rate up, and I finish faster than the rest on the run.


What I'm getting at, is do you think this is effective training to get fit for PRMC?
Yes, and no!

I did the same kind of thing before I joined up. I ran five miles every day at the same kind of pace as you, and got the shock of my life when I started training.

Vary your training a bit, do some long runs, some shorter faster runs, and some interval, or fartlek runs once or twice a week.

I'm sure you'll see progress quite quickly.

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lodgi

Santa obviously bought in bulk cause I got one too !

One thing to remember with it, is that the 220 - your age = MHR formula is only a guide. Everybody's different !
My max heart rate should be 188 based on that and yet I was 197 on a recent mile & half.

Good piece of kit though.

And T_T is right about the training; I found to my peril that doing 6 miles runs a few times a week is not enough. You may get the stamina, but you need to vary it, because when PTI ran off on the endurance course, it felt like you were sprinting everywhere to catch him! :oops:

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Been doing a bit of research on 5km race training, I know it's not exactly what i'm training for but I thought I might try this training regime as something different to just going running at any old distance. I've got myself a GPS heart rate monitor, so I can just run down the road in any direction and the distance get measured for me. Looks like it might have some substance.

http://www.serpentine.org.uk/advice/coach/fh08.php
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ye as said above, dont take the 220 - age as gospel... its 220 - age (+/- 10) so there is a large margin for error.


My heart rate on a maximal test at uni was recorded as high as 205bpm - and im not 15!
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