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A good plan? Or one worthy of a walt

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I'm sorry, another post about a 17-year-old who wants to join the SAS because they're "cool".
Bollocks to that. I have wanted to be a soldier since before I hit double figures. And to me the SAS would be the "Holy Grail" of soldiering. There is a lot of competition, everyone wants in. But I want it more, am one determined bastard, quite fit, reasonably bright and am the type of person who will try to shove their cock down a beer bottle just because someone bet I couldn't.
My plan.
Once I have completed my A levels I am going to attempt to join the RM. That will be when I am 18. With the faith I pass that, I would have completed training by the time I am 19.
I am specky 4 eyes so after a couple of tours of duty and when I am 21 I am going to get my eyes lasered at Moorsfield eye hospital. It is going to cost me a small fortune. No cheap way. I feel my eyes are worth it, since I don't relish the idea of trading my SA80 for a white stick.
Once that is done I am going to spend maybe 2 years to let my eyes "bed in" then I am going to apply for SAS selection and hope/pray/bribe/cheat for the best and beat/fight/torture/kill anyone who gets in my way.
Since I would have been in the RM the more likely choice would be to go for SBS, but I am not the biggest fan of diving and all water born activities. I can swim for miles; it just takes me years. Therefore I think that a pongo special forces regiment would suit me better.
I know there are a lot of posts around about corrective eye surgery is not allowed, however there was that BBC news report about a load of special forces blokes getting their eyes lasered to have better night vision. Rules could have changed. So I am hoping for that glimmer of a chance.
Well, that’s my plan. I will be doing it regardless of pretty much anything. I am just wondering what anyone who cares thinks about it.
What could be possible problem or anything?
Just what do you think?
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Post by walter_1 »

you can have laser vision surgery. this has to have been completed a year before you start selection. cheers
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First I want to say good on you and good luck, it is healthy to have ambitions and goals at your age. Without sounding to pessimistic I would personally but all your focus into getting accepted into the Royal Marines first. That is no easy feat I understand.
I would personally keep your ambitions of a career in SF to yourself, as the old cliché goes it’s the ones who have done it that don’t have to shout about it.
I recall when I was stationed in Springfield Road a long time ago we had a small posse of tall lanky sneaky beakys take over a room and I vividly remember that one wore a pair of glasses. Take of that what you will, knowing me they were just a bunch of Int Corp and nothing sneaky about them.
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Mr. Nuts - you're Nuts!!

Sorry Numbnuts, your last post just solicited that response.!!

I hope you succeed in your plan.

You show determination, endeavour and certainly a "will to win".

Just a word of caution.

1. Concentrate on passing the RM part of life first. Don't even mention to your instructors, that you intend applying for Special Forces. You will be crucified, if you do.

2. When you pass RM training and you have served with a commando unit for about 18 months, then apply for SF training. You might then be ready.
I don't really know about the eye problem but get them fixed anyway.

3. Apply to join the SBS. With an RM background it will be more naturel.
You don't have to do the Diving Course to be SBS these days. Almost half the SBS are not diving trained. (You might ask "what is the point then" - but don't get me started.)
By the way there are a lot of RM's in the SAS nowadays. They are almost taking over!

Hope you do well "numbnuts"!!

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Thanks.
I am by no means underestimating the Royal Marines. I have another year and a half to go before I intend to join so I am using the time to get as fit as I can. I am currently running an 8minutes 11seconds BFT and I want to get it down to 7minutes 30seconds or better by the time I join.
I know it’s not just about fitness, but I think I could deal with anything they throw at me. Unless it’s a brick.
It could be that once in, I am very happy with the Royal Marines and don't wish to attempt SF's.
I would hope to try for selection, and would love to wear the winged dagger. But I would only apply if I knew I could do it.
I am keeping the fact I want to join SF's VERY quiet. I am keeping the fact I want to join the Royal Marines quiet. My parent's don't even know I want to join the Armed Forces. This is because I will get the entire hassle about "why do you want to go and do that for" and I can't be bothered to deal with that. I’ll probably just tell them I am going to the shops when I start basic.
What other specialist skills do you do in the SBS, I thought it was entirely about diving and swimming.
I can swim but dead slow. I did 40 lengths of a 33-meter pool the other day; it took me over an hour. That is one of the things I will be using my year and a half to improve at.
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Hi Nuts!

I like your style. You seem to have a good attitude.

SBS these days seem to be a mirror image of the SAS. In fact there doesn't seem to be much difference betwen the two.

As far as the swimming test is concerned, back in my day it consisted of swimming four lengths with clothing. I have to admit that I struggled to pass it - but I did and I like to think that although I was an awful swimmer on the surface. I was very good underwater! My problem was that I was "Negatively Buoyant!" So I was crap on the surface but quite good underwater!

If you can do 40 lengths - you will pass the swimming test!! Time is immaterial.

I can''t tell you what other skills the SBS have to possess but I suspect that these days they will mirror the SAS. They do not include diving etc. unless you want to volunteer for that "extra" training.

We old guys, do not like the way things are going but we are just "Old Farts" who have no input.!!

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Almost taking over.... Dream on Sneaky. :lol:
The Brecon Becons still stand Pen-y Fan is still a pain it makes no differance jnr, snr, selection, it stays with you ............
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numbnuts wrote:I am keeping the fact I want to join the Royal Marines quiet. My parent's don't even know I want to join the Armed Forces.
The very best of luck to you in your future. You seem well switched on and focused on what you want.
However, I'm not sure that keeping something like this from your parents will be the best way to go. They are, after all, your parents.

I was apprehansive when I told my dad about wanting to join the Marines and I'm 21 and left home a while ago.
But at the end of the day even if they don't agree with it they will support you if you show them you are as serious as you sound.
Aways look on the bright side of life.
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Re: A good plan? Or one worthy of a walt

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numbnuts wrote:I can swim for miles; it just takes me years.

made me chukle, good luck


concentrate on getting your green lid, it will not be easy so don't be over confident.
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I realize that the Royal Marines will be the first hurdle. I am really looking forward to when I join.

Ahhhhh -wishful dreaming- being woken up in the small hours by an angry sergeant and his over enthusiastic pace-stick, running up and down hills with a eye-wateringly heavy bergen, spending hours ironing and folding kit and getting punished for putting a whoopee cushion on the C.O's chair. That'll be the life.

Naked roll-matt fighting is one the things I am not looking forward to so much. But I am sure it won't be hard on me and I certainly hope it won't be hard at all for the other recruits. Unless of course women are permitted to take part who score no more than 3 on the 0 to mong scale.
My parents sort of know because I get all the free army mags and letters and all that crap. But I think they just think I am just "considering" it as a career and don't know I actually really want it. They are hoping as well that I would go in as an officer if I do go for it. I keep getting comments because they are under the pretence that all soldiers are only soldiers because they can't do anything else.

I was surprised, I thought to become SF’s you had to be selected out of excellence to even go on selection. I only found out you could just apply about a month ago. Much better for me so I can choose when I am ready.
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Post by sneaky beaky »

Sorry neil1955,
That wasn't meant to be a dig.
I suspect that both of us do not like the way things are going.
I would much prefer that we both kept our specialisations and kept different.
I think the whole current situation will end in tears.
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Naked roll-matt fighting is one the things I am not looking forward to so much. But I am sure it won't be hard on me and I certainly hope it won't be hard at all for the other recruits. Unless of course women are permitted to take part who score no more than 3 on the 0 to mong scale.
You were doing so well up until then!

Even so, you've got bags of guts it seems and that'll help make you an excellent bootneck. Train hard and give it your all and I have no doubts you'll make it.

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Post by neil1955 »

Sneaky
I for once concur, I have allways belived that if it aint broke dont fix it :evil:
The realy worrying thing about this new system is that some pongos having passed selection are opting for SBS WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO :lol:
The Brecon Becons still stand Pen-y Fan is still a pain it makes no differance jnr, snr, selection, it stays with you ............
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Sonne wrote: You were doing so well up until then!
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Sonne, you wouldn't be a fan of Dr. Lecter, would you?
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Frank S. wrote:
Sonne wrote: You were doing so well up until then!
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Sonne, you wouldn't be a fan of Dr. Lecter, would you?
Just a passing interest...

But funnily enough this isn't the first time i have been compared to him. Ever so slightly worrying.

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