Australian SF entry testing - How can I train for this?

[Grandor]

Ok so I'm looking at passing the Australian SFET (special forces entry test) the test is as follows:

60 Pushups
100 Situps
10 Chin ups
2.4km Run (Patrol Order 7kg/ Runners) 11.30 min
Run-Jump-Dodge test (Patrol order) 50 sec
Swim 400m (DPCU & Runners) 18 min
Tread water 2 min
15km Endurance march (21kg Pack, 7kg Webbing, rifle) 2hrs 20 min
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I can do the Pushups and chin ups easily.
Swim shouldn't be hard for me either.

However the Situps are a real issue, I can only do about 40.
The 2.4km run will be hard too nd so will the 15km endurance march.

How do you practice with weighted packs?
What type of backpack should I use? wuld it be best for me to go to the army disposal store and just by an army pack and some webbing?

thx for any help you can give me guys.

[rc]

Is there a time limit for the sit ups ? just curious.

rc

[themattmeister]

Are you going to go from being a civilian straight into special forces then?

[DWW]

Am I the only one who's looking at that and thinking it doesn't look as difficult as I would expect?

I'm not saying it's easy by the way, just that I would have expected more.

Dave

[rc]

I know what you mean DWW, it certainly looks possible, maybe there's a few serious warm ups thrown in for good measure, for example the PRMC sounds pretty easy in the recruiting information from the A.F.C.O. - I've never done one mind, but from what i've heard, it's obviously not the case. If I hadn't found this site and read Gipper's and Daveb's diary I would have been expecting a 3 day holiday.

Rich.

[Sarastro]

Thought exactly the same thing DWW:

60 Pushups = PRMC standard

100 Situps = Only one which seems to be above other standards

10 Chin ups = PRMC standard

2.4km Run (Patrol Order 7kg/ Runners) 11.30 min = Accounting for weight, roughly the entry requirement for infantry in the British Army (9 minutes for 2.4km)

Run-Jump-Dodge test (Patrol order) 50 sec = No idea what this is...

Swim 400m (DPCU & Runners) 18 min = Dead people would float faster

Tread water 2 min = Grade 1 swimming ability

15km Endurance march (21kg Pack, 7kg Webbing, rifle) 2hrs 20 min = 50 minutes slower than P-Coy 10 miler, and in P-coy you carry more weight.

Considering that most of those are entry level requirements for the forces, or non-SF type regiments, it seems bloody easy compared to our SF reqs. And how do you do this test straight from civvy life?

EDIT: quick Google revealed that this isn't the real test, the actual selection process is much longer, harder and more like UKSF selection, the above test seems to just be there to weed out the ejiuts.

[Grandor]

Theres a thing called the SFDRS (special forces direct recruiting scheme) which has accelerated training in which no prior millitary knowledge is required.

Its just somethin I'm looking into.

[sneaky beaky]

Sarastro ( and Grandor!)

I've just been browsing this site and I have the following conclusions about Sarastro's and Grandor's posts.

60 Pushups = PRMC standard

100 Situps = Only one which seems to be above other standards

10 Chin ups = PRMC standard

2.4km Run (Patrol Order 7kg/ Runners) 11.30 min = Accounting for weight, roughly the entry requirement for infantry in the British Army (9 minutes for 2.4km)

Run-Jump-Dodge test (Patrol order) 50 sec = No idea what this is...

Swim 400m (DPCU & Runners) 18 min = Dead people would float faster

Tread water 2 min = Grade 1 swimming ability

15km Endurance march (21kg Pack, 7kg Webbing, rifle) 2hrs 20 min = 50 minutes slower than P-Coy 10 miler, and in P-coy you carry more weight.

Taken freom point one!

60 pushups in one go? Questionable

100 sit ups in one go? Very Questionable!

10 Chin ups in one go? Probably.

2.4 Km run (approx 1.5 miles). Should be easily achievable.

Run-Jump- Dodge test. ???

Swin 400 metres in clothing and trainers in 18 minutes.? As 400 metres is 16 lengths of the average size swimming pool, I think this might be difficult!!

Tread water for two minutes.? Shouldn't be a problem.

15K endurance march in 2 hrs. 20 mins.? 15k is aprrox. 10 miles. This should be achievable by anyone reasonably fit.

All I can say is that I am glad that I don't have to pass today's tests!!
The tests in my day were difficult enough!!

Just one little proviso. Are you doing the press-ups and sit ups properly?
Sneaky

[Sarastro]

Sneaky, wasn't actually saying I could pass all those today, just pointing out that they seemed rather easy for SF entry considering they are about the level of recruit entry for Royal or the Para.

One bit below I was a little surprised at from an ex-SB though!

Swim 400 metres in clothing and trainers in 18 minutes.? As 400 metres is 16 lengths of the average size swimming pool, I think this might be difficult!!

No idea what I would be able to race 400 meters in, but over the summer I regularly swam approx 2.5k (minimum) in 1 hour, no sprinting just a relaxed pace - that averages at 50 meters every 41 seconds, or 400 meters in 5 1/2 minutes...so even if I was going twice as slow accounting for clothes and trainers, could do 400 meters in just a little over half that required time of 18 minutes...and like I said, that was relaxed pace, any half-way decent swimmer could do the same.

[Grandor]

The 100 situps kills me..

Pushups and Chinups are easy.

Anyone have thoughts on training for situps?

[Wee Willy Winkie]

keep doing them. oh you want more, ok. i do them holding a dumbell along my upper body (chest), just put your arms at right angles and hold them up with your forearms. it increases the weight you need to lift up so will improve quicker. this may not be true or whatever, but it works for me and i can really notice the difference, weights to doing them without weights. WWW

[anglo-saxon]

this may not be true or whatever, but it works for me...

OK, it's remedial English time.

Caps at the beginning of sentences. Why? Because the reader's eye expects it, it's easier to read, and it just plain makes sense.

Periods (full-stops) at the end of sentences, not commas haphazardly splicing sentences together. Why? Because otherwise what you're saying makes little or no sense to the reader. You don't arrange your thoughts and ideas in your head like that (I hope!), so why express them like that?

The thing is, if you get clocked as someone who can't be bothered to write with a little consideration for the reader, people will eventually just blow you out and bypass your posts altogether. None of us are perfect at typing or spelling, but most make an effort.

No offense intended. I for one would just rather see a valuable contributor than someone ignored.

[Wee Willy Winkie]

Very sorry.