SAS are you tough enough?

[Argonaught]

I am not yet a marine i start on 18th March, but i was wondering if any of you bootnecks out there have watched the BBC2 series SAS are you tough enough?
Do the marines go through anything simular? i know about the commando training and the 30 miler, but do you go through the interogation training etc.
Just interested to know. There do seem to be some simularity in the training methods of the SAS and the marines although obviously the marines is not as tough.

[Lenny M]

Question....How do you quantify 'tough'???

[Argonaught]

I dont know how you quantify tough, but are you implying the sas selection course is not tougher than the marines selection course.
I cannot comment on etheir, yet.
I dont want to offend any marines or in anyway say the marines training isnt hard, its well documented how hard it is and i have nothing but respect for all those who have completed it, but surley the sas selection is harder than the marines training.

[John_D]

I think you will find that the facts speak for them-selve to compare SAS training with basic commando Training is a bit much,you are talking about the elite of the Parra,s to Basic training for Marines,the comparisons I think you are looking at is between SAS and SBS,two elite forces,
Aye
John_D

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[Argonaught]

i think the questions moved of the point, i wasnt asking if the marines training was as hard as the SAS training, as you say it speaks for itself.
I was really interested to know if the marines go through anything simular to the interogation training and escape and evation etc.
I was watching the "SAS are you tough enough" program and it just got me thinking that it would seem logical for an elite figting force such as the marines to do this.

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Ja.

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[John_D]

To the question reguarding interogation,I think you will find the answer to that is NO
"at least it was n,t when I was training and as for as I know still isn,t.
This is mainly for personnel who operate behind enemy lines,working under cover and the like,

John_D

[Leigh Dowell]

To train a brigade in R to I would be too expensive and time consuming to be practical, so this sort of training is limited to "prone to capture troops" ie SF and recce units. Obviously SAS/SBS, ML and when I was still in the first RLs(recce leaders) were sent on an air crew survival course and I imagine the Pathfinders may have something similar.
But for Perce I imagine the sight of a bar of soap will have them singing like canaries.

[Jimbo]

Regarding Recce leaders, does anybody know if it is and SQ or an adqual? As I imagine it, it`s a course that has to be done before a member of BPT can become a section commander/JNCO, is this the case?

Cheers,

[Leigh Dowell]

[Leigh Dowell]

The RL rate was brought in to standardise troops in the role, it is an adqual(I'm almost 3 years out of date here). When I joined Recce it was a unit selection and if I was drafted it didn't mean I could join another Recce Tp so after (too)many years Bde decided to do it properly.
As to promotion, there is no RL2 or 1 rate and in BPT JNCOs are ML/PW/GD etc like most other Tps, I suppose the nearest thing is PW3, it is a job for a specific role.

[matt l]

Hi,is the pw3 course restricted to mls if not what is the lenght of time you must serve before application?How difficult is the course and have you been on it?How hard is it to enter bpt or the recce group?I am not yet a marine but when i eventualy get in I would love to be a ml.Cheers ,matt.

[hedgie_rm]

to be an ml you need to get a b grade on your reports which means you need to be reccomended for a juniors probably looking at 4years you have to pass a juniors and achieve a b grade or above and then onto the mls course altogether its about a year a pw3 is a snipers course you can do this after say a minimum of a year out of training hope this awnsers your question all the best
hedgie

[matt l]

Cheers mate.When you say report,what does that innclude ,is it like a school report? Matt.

[hedgie_rm]

yeah sort of its a yearly report written by your troop officer if you want to go ml tell the troop boss and you might get a b grade earlier providing you earn it of course