The gay pride/RAF discussion highlighted peoples concerns and views about homosexuals in the Armed Forces.
What do you all think about them being allowed to join and serve.
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Homosexuals in the Armed Forces.
Homosexuals in the Armed Forces.
Mexican bandit, "Badges?! We don't need no stinking badges....."
Major Kong, "Shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in vegas with all that stuff....."
Gore, "The first casualty of war is your underpants....."
Major Kong, "Shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in vegas with all that stuff....."
Gore, "The first casualty of war is your underpants....."
I believe that the statistics allegedly show that approximately 1 in 10 of the population are gay in this country. Personally I don't believe a word of it.
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If you doubt yourself try this quick test.
http://www.kontraband.com/show/popup.as ... 17&TTVAL=2
Gore.
P.S. I passed with flying colours.
Mexican bandit, "Badges?! We don't need no stinking badges....."
Major Kong, "Shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in vegas with all that stuff....."
Gore, "The first casualty of war is your underpants....."
Major Kong, "Shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in vegas with all that stuff....."
Gore, "The first casualty of war is your underpants....."
Look you have to live very closely to people in army, any way and you don't always want to be on your guard, when some is hauling you over an obstacle, are they being helpful or are they having a grope, do you say thank you or do you thump them one. It also brings a whole new meaning to watch my back, with luck they will do what you expect, or they they might just sit there watching your rear. No you need to know just who you can trust.
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Im not seving but I said that they should be allowed in. (Im not one by the way!)
I have no problem with homos themselves, just thier sexuallity. I think what they do is sick and unnatural, but it does not mean that if I see a homo I would shout abuse or show any signs of disgust. It's thier probelm, and as long as they keep it to themselves its fine. Ovcourse if a homo started looking at me in a strange manner i'd get a bit annoyed and would probably start a fight. Basically - if they keep thier mind on the job they are ok. If their mind wonders anywhere else they can go.
But I still wouldnt socialise with them.
I have no problem with homos themselves, just thier sexuallity. I think what they do is sick and unnatural, but it does not mean that if I see a homo I would shout abuse or show any signs of disgust. It's thier probelm, and as long as they keep it to themselves its fine. Ovcourse if a homo started looking at me in a strange manner i'd get a bit annoyed and would probably start a fight. Basically - if they keep thier mind on the job they are ok. If their mind wonders anywhere else they can go.
But I still wouldnt socialise with them.
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The thing is Jon would you like to share a slit trench with one, in the army at times you do not have much room when you are active service and you must have complete faith in the person next to you.
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A large number of people in society abuse hard drugs. Oh I know.......lets celebrate diversity and lets actively recruit drug addicts into the forces!!!! After all, we want the armed forces to reflect society..........
Jesus Christ.... *ping* another great idea from the useless politicians!! UH-OH here comes the PC brigade..... "its wrong to criticise drug addicts Greg!".
To which I reply "piss off you cunny funts".
Jesus Christ.... *ping* another great idea from the useless politicians!! UH-OH here comes the PC brigade..... "its wrong to criticise drug addicts Greg!".
To which I reply "piss off you cunny funts".
But what about soldiers who are gay but dont openly admitt it? Would you throw a gay soldier out of the army who has just fought in Iraq? Or what about gay soldiers who have served the country bravely in the past?
Im not in favour of homosexuality and believe that it should be dispersuaded (word?) by any means, but if people want to be gay then they should be allowed. Just as long as they remain sensible about it and dont start wearing drag and forming close groups with each other.
Im not in favour of homosexuality and believe that it should be dispersuaded (word?) by any means, but if people want to be gay then they should be allowed. Just as long as they remain sensible about it and dont start wearing drag and forming close groups with each other.
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It's been said many times on here in relation to females on the front line,
the remarks have been passed that the guys first instinct would be be to look after the females if the sh t hit the fan, what happens if it's your boy friend !!
You would normally look after you mate anyway, but surely it must be more difficult if your in LUV.
If you know what I mean.
ps Have only met one in 22yrs that you would say was "Gay", I hasten to add I don't know this for sure from personal experience.
the remarks have been passed that the guys first instinct would be be to look after the females if the sh t hit the fan, what happens if it's your boy friend !!
You would normally look after you mate anyway, but surely it must be more difficult if your in LUV.
If you know what I mean.
ps Have only met one in 22yrs that you would say was "Gay", I hasten to add I don't know this for sure from personal experience.
Ha ha that's not what he said!
afraid not; try discouraged!Jon wrote:it should be dispersuaded (word?)
You've destroyed yourself in a blitzkrieg of inconsistency, man!Jon wrote:if people want to be gay then they should be allowed. Just as long as they remain sensible about it and dont start wearing drag and forming close groups with each other.
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I think this is a good point. I've always felt that I really couldn't care one way or the other about someone else's sexuality HOWEVER putting people into the front line who may be in a relationship with each other could cause problems. Not just the obvious ones such as the fact that, as said above, one's allegiance may be more to one's partner than to your unit. But there are many other problems I could forsee. Emotional problems, practical problems etc. On a level of military strategy I could forsee problems, in fact similar problems to the ones faced in the Police Service whereby they immediately seperate people who become couples to ensure that they don't work the same shifts together. Obviously this is often not strategically possible in an active war situation.got1 wrote:It's been said many times on here in relation to females on the front line,
the remarks have been passed that the guys first instinct would be be to look after the females if the sh t hit the fan, what happens if it's your boy friend !!
You would normally look after you mate anyway, but surely it must be more difficult if your in LUV.
If you know what I mean.
ps Have only met one in 22yrs that you would say was "Gay", I hasten to add I don't know this for sure from personal experience.
I think the other thing is that I'm pretty sure this is going on anyway, but it remains relatively 'hidden'.
I was having a discussion recently with an army GP who had been asked to assess two serving females. Why? Because they had been caught 'up to no good' and the reaction from their C/O was to send them both for psychiatric assessment as a predilictor for chucking them out of the army. This is clearly a rather neanderthal and somewhat unfortunate approach. The days of suggesting that homosexuality is a 'psychiatric disease' are thankfully long gone.
But I would still have reservations about formally allowing homosexuals to serve in the front line. Maybe it wouldn't matter so much if they were doing jobs which were not in the front line where any kind of intimate relationship could well affect the cohesiveness of the unit.
I was under the impression that the U.S. Army now do allow homosexuals in, but I may be wrong there.
Jon, I do not doubt a homosexual courage, but when you have served you will find that you will neeed to trust and be comfortable with the guys with you. Now if you have some homosexual in your group it could tip balance in that unit. The Ancinet Greeks had the right idea they formed the homosexuals into there own Battalions and there is memorial to them where they died to a man why fighting enormous odds.
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