Just doing a bit of "surfing" (its not, I'm sitting at a computer typing... how is that surfing?), and thought this might be of interest.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/463495.html
Iran tests missile capable of hitting Israel
By Reuters
TEHRAN- Iran's defense ministry said on Wednesday it had carried out a field test of the latest version of its Shihab-3 medium-range ballistic missile which defense experts say can reach Israel or U.S. bases in the Persian Gulf.
Defense Minister Ali Shamkhani said last week Iran was working on improvements to the range and accuracy of the Shihab-3 in response to Israel's moves to boost its anti-missile capability.
A defense ministry spokesman confirmed a state television report that the test was carried out "to assess the latest developments implemented on this missile." He declined to give any further details.
Iran says its missile program is purely for deterrent purposes. Tehran also denies U.S. and Israeli accusations that it is seeking to develop nuclear warheads which could be delivered by the Shihab-3.
Based on the North Korean Nodong-1 and modified with Russian technology, the Shihab-3 is thought to have a range of 1,300 kilometers which would allow it to strike anywhere in Israel.
Shihab means meteor in Persian.
Amid media speculation that Israel may try to halt Iran's nuclear program by carrying out air strikes on some atomic facilities in Iran, Iranian officials have said Tehran would retaliate promptly and strongly to any such attack.
Tough talk
"If Israel behaves like a lunatic and attacks the Iranian nation's interests, we will come down on their heads like a mallet and break their bones," the ISNA students news agency quoted Revolutionary Guards Commander Yahya Rahim Safavi as saying on Wednesday.
Israel successfully tested its Arrow II anti-missile project in the United States last month. It was the seventh time the Arrow II had worked but the first time it had destroyed a Scud missile - similar to the Shihab-3 - in flight.
"The Israelis have recently tried to increase their missile capability and we will also try to upgrade our Shihab-3 missile in every respect," the ISNA students news agency quoted Shamkhani as saying last week.
He said the improvements to the Shihab-3 "will not be limited to the missile's range and will include all its specifications".
Iran deployed the Shihab-3 missiles to its Revolutionary Guards last July after preliminary field tests were successfully completed.
Six of the sand-colored missiles, bearing slogans which said "We will stamp on America" and "We will wipe Israel from the face of the earth", were displayed at an annual military parade last September.
Iran has not said how many of the missiles it has so far manufactured. Military analysts say questions remain about its reliability and accuracy.
A senior Israeli defense source said Israel believed Tehran was developing a Shihab-4 missile with a range of 1,700 km capable of reaching Europe. Iran has denied this.
"This 'new and improved' Shihab-3 could well be Iran's way of producing the extended-range missile while avoiding the Mark-4 label which would draw international concern," he said.
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LOL!!Redhand wrote:I don't think Israel has to worry too much about large payloads comin there way. There a nuclear power and the Arab states know that if the s*** hits the fan, the desert could be turned into glass.
Don't think we have much to worry about there though... Probably just a PR stunt... Because even though they hate Israel, they might as well bomb hawaii...Same consequences....
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Read the title of the thread you muppet. If Iran gets the Bomb they only need to hit Israel once and its game over, precisely why Israel doesnt want Iran to have it, it'd give them too much of a strategic advantage.luke wrote:Who's gonna nuke Israel? Britain? France?Ex-URNU-Student wrote:Yeah but the Arab countries would survive, Israel wouldnt. One nuke hits them and its bye bye baby.
Israel is the only middle-east country which has nukes.
The Israelis could nuke every country in sight but the Arab countries would still survive, Israel is the size of Wales by comparison.
Im sick of all this fighting in the Mid-East. I hope Iran does get nukes, the Israelis wont make peace any other way. The US will never put the necessary pressure on them and noone else can do anything. Maybe its time for another factor in the equation.
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004383012,00.html
By SUN ONLINE REPORTER
IRAN's defence minister today warned that its military could launch a pre-emptive strike against US forces in the Gulf to prevent an attack on the countries' nuclear facilities.
Ali Shamkhani told the Al-Jazeera TV station any move against the country's nuclear installations would be viewed as an attack "on Iran as a whole".
Asked whether Iran would respond to a US strike, Shamkhani said: "We will not sit (with arms folded) to wait for what others will do to us."
He added: "Some military commanders in Iran are convinced that preventive operations which the Americans talk about are not their monopoly."
Shamkhani vowed that the US military presence in Iraq would not become an element of strength at his country's expense.
American forces would "turn into a hostage" in Iranian hands in the event of an attack, he said.
Iran's nuclear power programme is seen by both the Israel and the US as a cover for the covert development of weapons.
But Iran insists it has no ulterior motive and accuses Israel of possessing nuclear weapons.
The International Atomic Energy Agency has launched a wide-ranging probe into the facility.
A war of words between Israel and Iran has sparked speculation that there may be a repeat of Israel's 1981 strike against Iraqi nuclear facilities.
Shamkhani said: "We will consider any strike against our nuclear installations as an attack on Iran as a whole, and we will retaliate with all our strength.
"Where Israel is concerned, we have no doubt that it is an evil entity, and it will not be able to launch any military operation without an American green light.
"You cannot separate the two."
He also warned that. in the event of a strike, Iran would consider itself no longer bound by its commitments to the International Atomic Energy Agency.
The last arab country to obtain full nuclear possibilities was infact Iraq, they had a reactor set up that was airstriked by Israel. If Iran follows the same path, same thing will happen. Israel has nothing to worry about.Ex-URNU-Student wrote:Read the title of the thread you muppet. If Iran gets the Bomb they only need to hit Israel once and its game over, precisely why Israel doesnt want Iran to have it, it'd give them too much of a strategic advantage.luke wrote:Who's gonna nuke Israel? Britain? France?Ex-URNU-Student wrote:Yeah but the Arab countries would survive, Israel wouldnt. One nuke hits them and its bye bye baby.
Israel is the only middle-east country which has nukes.
The Israelis could nuke every country in sight but the Arab countries would still survive, Israel is the size of Wales by comparison.
Im sick of all this fighting in the Mid-East. I hope Iran does get nukes, the Israelis wont make peace any other way. The US will never put the necessary pressure on them and noone else can do anything. Maybe its time for another factor in the equation.
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Look at a map, look at the sheer distances involved. Even the much vaunted "long arm" of the Israeli Air Force isnt that long, the Yanks or Turkey would have to help.Redhand wrote:The last arab country to obtain full nuclear possibilities was infact Iraq, they had a reactor set up that was airstriked by Israel. If Iran follows the same path, same thing will happen. Israel has nothing to worry about.Ex-URNU-Student wrote:Read the title of the thread you muppet. If Iran gets the Bomb they only need to hit Israel once and its game over, precisely why Israel doesnt want Iran to have it, it'd give them too much of a strategic advantage.luke wrote: Who's gonna nuke Israel? Britain? France?
Israel is the only middle-east country which has nukes.
The Israelis could nuke every country in sight but the Arab countries would still survive, Israel is the size of Wales by comparison.
Im sick of all this fighting in the Mid-East. I hope Iran does get nukes, the Israelis wont make peace any other way. The US will never put the necessary pressure on them and noone else can do anything. Maybe its time for another factor in the equation.
Besides even if they did manage to carry it off, at what price?
Iran has already threatened sheer bloody revenge if attacked, they say they'll attack US forces and Israeli nuclear facilities and *oil fields*, the jugular vein of the West. Countries such as Syria might be drawn in and considering they've all got bio/chem weapons already is it really worth Mid-East Armageddon?
Just imagine the effect on oil prices and the world economy...I think the Iranians have worked this one out very cleverly, the US is bogged down in Iraq and would be loathe to stir up further trouble in the region.
I just totally disagree that the arabs present any serious threat.
If nukes were ruled out, Israel could smash them conventionally also. Israel can put more trigger pullers to bear than the entire US armed forces combined, thanx to Israels incredible reservists system.
The only support Israel relies on from the US is political, i feel that will come to an end though if John Kerry gets in.
If nukes were ruled out, Israel could smash them conventionally also. Israel can put more trigger pullers to bear than the entire US armed forces combined, thanx to Israels incredible reservists system.
The only support Israel relies on from the US is political, i feel that will come to an end though if John Kerry gets in.
Duh, well done, you found the keyboard, now see if you can use it to construct coherent sentences.Ex-URNU-Student wrote:Read the title of the thread you muppet. If Iran gets the Bomb they only need to hit Israel once and its game over, precisely why Israel doesnt want Iran to have it, it'd give them too much of a strategic advantage.luke wrote:Who's gonna nuke Israel? Britain? France?Ex-URNU-Student wrote:Yeah but the Arab countries would survive, Israel wouldnt. One nuke hits them and its bye bye baby.
Israel is the only middle-east country which has nukes.
The Israelis could nuke every country in sight but the Arab countries would still survive, Israel is the size of Wales by comparison.
Im sick of all this fighting in the Mid-East. I hope Iran does get nukes, the Israelis wont make peace any other way. The US will never put the necessary pressure on them and noone else can do anything. Maybe its time for another factor in the equation.
Where does the thread title make mention of nuclear-class weaponry?
Not strickly correct, if iran developed a nuke it would almost definatly not be a hydrogen bomb, more likely an atomic bomb, low yield, they might take out a city or two with a few missles, if they even got through, israel and possibly america would more than likely raise the country that launched it to the ground by whatever means.Ex-URNU-Student wrote:Yeah but the Arab countries would survive, Israel wouldnt. One nuke hits them and its bye bye baby.
Anyhow even if one nuke could destroy all of israel i'd like to see them get a nice israel shaped blast area
you'd end up blowing up palistine up as well :p-
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Lol ok so if theres nothing to worry about then why are the US and Israel in such a flap about it?
In any case Iran will become a nuclear power. Nothing short of an Iraq-style invasion can stop Iran's nuke programme, airpower alone wont do it. So you're going to have to get used to it mate!
Btw tovarich, learn to spell..
In any case Iran will become a nuclear power. Nothing short of an Iraq-style invasion can stop Iran's nuke programme, airpower alone wont do it. So you're going to have to get used to it mate!
Btw tovarich, learn to spell..
Why would air power not be enough it was with Iraq?Ex-URNU-Student wrote:Lol ok so if theres nothing to worry about then why are the US and Israel in such a flap about it?
In any case Iran will become a nuclear power. Nothing short of an Iraq-style invasion can stop Iran's nuke programme, airpower alone wont do it. So you're going to have to get used to it mate!
Btw tovarich, learn to spell..
Dis i spell that right?
