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Hi there folks. What is the oath of allegiance to the Crown ?

Does anyone have a copy of this.
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Why? :-?
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You don't need to learn it. Just say what you are told to say !!!!
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This is the Canadian version. There are various Oaths, utilised by everybody from witnesses to Prime Ministers. If you are going to swear it, then understand what it means, don't just mouth the words because you have to; it's all part of why we served.
I, ...................., do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Queen of Canada, Her Heirs and Successors. So help me God.
You should talk to somebody who gives a f**k.
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El Prez wrote:This is the Canadian version. There are various Oaths, utilised by everybody from witnesses to Prime Ministers. If you are going to swear it, then understand what it means, don't just mouth the words because you have to; it's all part of why we served.
I, ...................., do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Queen of Canada, Her Heirs and Successors. So help me God.
I recall that my Brit Army oath in '81 also included (after "...Successors") "...and the Officers and Generals set over me" (it also read that way on my attestation certificate). No idea if it has changed.

The Canadian version may be taken as an oath (swearing by God with the hand upon the Bible) or as a solemn affirmation (for the irreligious libertines among us) where "swear" is replaced by "solemnly affirm", "So help me God" is deleted, and the Bible is conspicuous by its absence.

Last Wed, during the Regimental birthday parade, the CO swore in two new recruits in front of the unit. While he administered the oath, I couldn't help wondering if anyone had had the presence of mind to ask them what version they preferred.
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Pasha wrote:I've known a couple of Pagans/Wiccans in the army too, and I've always wondered what they were attested with?
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anglo-saxon wrote:
I, ...................., do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Queen of Canada, Her Heirs and Successors. So help me God.
The Canadian version may be taken as an oath (swearing by God with the hand upon the Bible) or as a solemn affirmation (for the irreligious libertines among us) where "swear" is replaced by "solemnly affirm", "So help me God" is deleted, and the Bible is conspicuous by its absence.
When did they change that?
Mines the same as the one prez put forward.
I just checked with a a pte down the hall and he had the same one I did and he swore his in 3 years ago.
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As previously posted:

All is explained:

http://www.army.mod.uk/servingsoldier/u ... 5_3_w.html

A good read for any recruit wondering what joining the Army entails and what the expectations are.

This is the interesting part with regard to the Oath of Allegiance:

0307. Irrespective of private beliefs, this Oath embodies the context within which the British Army fights and operates. It expresses the formal yet personal loyalty of every soldier in the British Army to the Sovereign as head of state. This focus on the Sovereign means that whatever the political views of individual soldiers, the British Army is essentially apolitical. Similarly, the Sovereign is the authority for the Commissions and Warrants of the various categories of officers. There is a similar formal yet personal relationship of Corps and Regiments to the Sovereign. These relationships find expression in the Colours, Standards and other emblems of Regimental and Corps spirit which derive from the Sovereign, and in the Ceremonial which demonstrates publicly the role of the Army in the fabric of the nation.
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The Army allows for atheists & agnostics as well.
Pasha - The army wouldn't allow me to be an atheist....
I think you were misinformed. I swore as an agnostic and had a slightly different oath to the religious bods which had no mention of God.
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BenChug wrote:
anglo-saxon wrote:
I, ...................., do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Queen of Canada, Her Heirs and Successors. So help me God.
The Canadian version may be taken as an oath (swearing by God with the hand upon the Bible) or as a solemn affirmation (for the irreligious libertines among us) where "swear" is replaced by "solemnly affirm", "So help me God" is deleted, and the Bible is conspicuous by its absence.
When did they change that?
Mines the same as the one prez put forward.
I just checked with a a pte down the hall and he had the same one I did and he swore his in 3 years ago.
The same time as they changed it for summary trials. That must have been at least five years ago, because I took my presiding officer's course in May '99.
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