Army punishment question

[df2inaus]

When I was in the TA at Blandford, I saw a regular soldier being marched around the drill square with no beret and taking fearsome abuse from a sergeant. What was this called? Was it "being jailed" or "close arrest?" I also heard this could be the result of being out of step on the march too many times? Just curious.

[got1]

df2,
If the sgt had a white belt on it would have the Provo Sgt with a nick wallah giving him some exercise. The other explanation, it could have been somebody taking him to nick [the long way]. The significant thing was the soldier had no hat on, he was either in close arrest, or about to be put in close arrest.

[AdamR]

As a four year old lad my strongest memory of visiting my sister in Northern Ireland was seeing a big moustached sergeant beasting this poor young lad for about 20 minutes. Can't remember the reason for it but I sure as hell didn't want to be that fellow at the time.

[df2inaus]

But what gets a soldier put under close arrest? Is it poor drill on the parade square? ND on an exercise? Giving someone the full debrief while intoxicated?

[Ploggers]

But what gets a soldier put under close arrest? Is it poor drill on the parade square? ND on an exercise? Giving someone the full debrief while intoxicated?

It could be for almost anything from murder down to simply pissing off the RSM.

In general terms;

A soldier who is under close arrest is always escorted to wherever he is required to be. Whilst being escorted he will not wear any headgear and will be double marched. This doesn't neccesarily mean that he has been convicted of an offence, although it could be the case, only that he is under close arrest.

An SUS (soldier under sentence) will be treated in the same manner at all times.

In Practice; a soldier can be arrested for almost anything under the army act 1955, or later amendments. Also an NCO or Senior NCO, an RSM for instance may decide to place a soldier under close arrest and march him around for a while as an act of discipline. This happens a lot in training - or used to!


http://www.army.mod.uk/servingsoldier/t ... index.html

[GARRYOWEN]

And Queens Regulations.

[GARRYOWEN]

Are you sure about that one.

[Wayne Kerr]

The Queens regulation for the army are backed up by the army act 1955 and subsequent ammendments, as they are for Navy/crabs regs.
On HM warshipsas Perce or Crab you come under the Navy act and are warned on Capt table of same.

[Contractor]

In layman's terms Army discipline is structured as follows:

Army Act 1955 - This is the principle legislation that allows the military to conduct summary justice as given by Parliament.

Queens Regulations (1975) This gives the policy and further direction for discipline and supplements the Army Act.

There are other guides on processes and procedures such as AGAI's but the above two are the main reference documents.

[Slimer]

As someone who's spent some time at Blandford, and no - I'm not a scaley, the "punishment" you are talking about could have been for something as simple as fluff on their beret on a monday morning parade.

If it was in the middle of the day, it was probably a beasting for someone on RoPs.

[df2inaus]

Slimer,

So he would have been put on RoP's for similar reasons as those mentioned above? This guy looked as if he'd been marched around for a good half hour and was at the point of making mistakes on the drill square, did a right turn instead of left etc.

[Slimer]

Yeah, it could have been anything really - Blandford, and the Signals as a whole is extremly "bull" based, even for a phase 2 camp. It was likely to have been a relativly minor offence, like being caught out after curfew for the second time or something.

[Tab]

I once saw a chap put under close arrest for having a spider on his bed, he was charged for keeping a pet with out permission, and he did time for it.