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Army gets new 'enhanced blast' weapon to fight Taliban


Richard Norton-Taylor
Thursday August 23, 2007
The Guardian


British soldiers in Afghanistan are being supplied with a new "super weapon" to attack Taliban fighters more effectively, defence officials said yesterday.
The "enhanced blast" weapon is based on thermobaric technology used in the powerful bombs dropped by the Russians to obliterate Grozny, the Chechen capital, and in US "bunker busters".

Defence officials insisted yesterday that the British bombs were different. "They are optimised to create blast [rather than heat]", one said, adding that it would be misleading to call them "thermobaric".

So-called thermobaric weapons have been used by the US against suspected al-Qaida and Taliban underground bases. Combined heat and pressure kill people over a wide area by sucking the air out of lungs and destroying internal organs.

Defence officials described the new weapon as a shoulder-launched "light anti-structure munition".

They said the bombs would be more effective than conventional weapons such as anti-tank missiles which often miss their targets. Even when they hit the damage is limited to a confined area.

The new weapons would be more effective against buildings and structures used by the Taliban, they said.

Sir Menzies Campbell, the Liberal Democrat leader, described the weapons as a "serious step change" for the British army. He added: "The continuing issue of civilian casualties in Afghanistan has enormous importance in the battle for hearts and minds. If these weapons contribute to the deaths of civilians then a primary purpose of the British deployment is going to be made yet more difficult."

The deployment of the weapons should have been announced to MPs, Sir Menzies said. "We need much more transparency."

The MoD said in a statement that it was buying "a small number of enhanced blast munitions for use on operations". It added: "These have been procured in full accordance with the UK's obligations under international humanitarian law. It is important to us that our forces can choose from a wide suite of weaponry so they can respond appropriately and proportionately to any threat." The weapons would be used "proportionally under specific rules of engagement", the MoD said.

A "legal review" for the weapon - officially the lightweight anti-structure missile (ASM) - considered issues including whether it was prohibited or restricted under international law, whether it could be used discriminately, and whether it would cause unnecessary suffering.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/s ... 80,00.html
Has anyone heard anything more about this? Is it a totally new weapon or just a new round for an existing one?

I'm not even going to bother commenting on what the Lib Dems said as you wouldn't expect anything else from them :roll:
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Ah right I did watch that video when you posted it the other day but I didn't realise it was the same one as talked about in the article.

Looks very effective to me!
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I'm not sure it same but i think there is a pretty good chance that it is. I think that many AT-4 user countries will adopt the AST. No new traning is needed. Ones you recieve them you can send them directly to the missions. And it is needed. A lot of good armour-piercing rounds are being "wasted" on houses,walls etc. in Iraq and Afghanistan today.
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It could also be this one:
http://www.nammo.com/templates/Product.aspx?id=177
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I just love the way the politicians try and cover everything in icing sugar, calling them anti-structure weapons etc. We won't be shooting them at buildings unless someone is shooting from within ffs!

Weapons are made to kill, there's nothing nice about them. As long as they do the job, that's all that matters.
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This story came from the Gruniad :roll:
I was amazed to find the variety of rounds available for the old Charley G in the eighties. Fleshettes, crowd controll, air burst etc. etc. when all we ever got was either the sub cal or the A/T round. Simple life, hey 8)
So some hack from the Guardian writes a "story" using very emotive language from a slanted viewpoint.
Nowt new there, then :roll:
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A lot of fancy talk from people that have never heard a shot fired in anger. If it saves British lives then use it, if any one else in a building being used by terrorist then they should leave before the fighting starts if they don't it is down to them.
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It seems like it's the BunkerFaust you bought. It's the same as Rafael Matador.

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/nob ... kas-01868/

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Ja ja! Das bunkerfaust ist gut ja!!! :lol:
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Mate, don`t ever try that down the Reeperbahn, :o
Or Union Strasse :P
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ASM

British forces are using the AT4 CS as an interim measure until the introduction in 2009 of its new Anti-Structure Munition (ASM), which will enable infantry units to 'defeat hardened structures such as buildings or bunkers more precisely and safely, and without recourse to artillery or air support'.

Dynamit Nobel was selected in February 2006 to develop, supply and support the ASM in a programme expected to be worth about 40 million [pounds sterling] in the first five years. The ASM is based the 90-mm Matador (Man-portable Anti-Tank, Anti-DOOR) that Dynamit Nobel had developed for the Singapore Armed Forces. The 9.8-kg weapon, marketed internationally as the Panzerfaust 90, is designed for use in urban operations. Its multi-purpose warhead, designed by parent company Rafael, is effective against fortifications and armoured vehicles to a maximum range of 500 metres and in the delay mode the warhead punches a hole larger than 450 mm diameter in a triple-brick wall. The ASM for the British Army can be programmed before launch to achieve either a maximum breaching effect or a greater behind-armour effect.

Dynamit Nobel and Rafael offer additional options for urban operations. The Matador WB (Wall Breacher) uses a new 'explosively formed ring' warhead to blast a 75 to 100-cm hole in a double-brick wall. Two munitions will blast a hole in a triple-brick wall or a double-reinforced concrete wall. The weapon has a range of 20 to 100 metres. The Fots Mauler is broadly similar to the ASM with an effective range between ten and 400 metres. German forces are equipped with Dynamit Nobel's 60 mm RGW 60 (Recoilless Grenade Weapon); essentially a scaled-down Pzf 90 weighing 5.8 kg. It is available with three warheads: a shaped charge Heat projectile, a multi-purpose Heat warhead that can penetrate over 100 mm of RHA and has 270 preformed fragments and a high-explosive squash head (Hesh) designed to punch a 400-mm hole in masonry. A Picatinny rail allows a night sight to be fitted.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Shoulder+ ... 0168432753
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looks a really good weapon will have a look for more vids on it :)
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Nice weapon. I had an AT4 myself but nothing like that :)
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