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Kanadiana
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Conditioning :(

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Hi :)

I LOVE the fact that the majority of posters in this ptsd corner are men, and are older men, because the traditional ways of being are things you all lived through and you're all in here, exposed. Thats both wisdom and courage AND HOPE and INSPIRATION to everyone else. A sort of coming out of the closet and showing natural humanness, and every soldier is very,very, sometimes sadly, human. It takes great strength to expose our "weaknesses" to our peers ... especially for men. Still.

I think that the more men and women accept and talk openly about their experiences like ptsd, whatever, then your openness gives acceptance and permission for the younger soldiers to open up too.

So ... there is still discrimination about ptsd and illnesses/weaknesses in the military peer group then eh? Sigh. Those attitudes are dissipating though?

A very dear friend of mine, my age-ish, is a miltary type. Quite conservative traditional believes in the old school mentality about suck it up and buck up and pull yourself together ... he's also an alcoholic. Believes ptsd is a creation of a coddling society.

As long as he holds that belief he'll never address his own ptsd issues and will continue to suffer and share that wealth... same with those young soldiers ... I think we should all just keep on talking and educating as we go.

Thank you ... for talking. Please don't stop.
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Post by harry hackedoff »

Karmen hi there,
the view that PTSD does not exist is commonly held by many sufferers.
whether my ex partner would agree that I handled it is quite another matter!! They are the real hidden casualties of PTSD
Plogger the blanket stacker from the mighty tribe of Logs :wink: , how true mate. For every victim, there is a victim`s familly.

Any of you silent watchers, please clock this because we aren`t the only option. Just talk to someone :wink:
http://www.audleyfic.org.uk/cgi-bin/index.cgi
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Fortunately the condition is much more recognised these days and treatment is
available, whether that treatment is accepted by rufty, tufty young soldiers is
another matter - after all, you would have to go sick..... and that would never
do.
Well ... I certainly hope and pray for the stigma to disappear yesterday ... because today can be pretty harsh and make for tomorrows complex ptsd ...and all the misery that goes with it. Sigh ... Thanks PG :) ... K.
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harry hackedoff wrote:Karmen hi there,
the view that PTSD does not exist is commonly held by many sufferers.

Plogger the blanket stacker from the mighty tribe of Logs :wink: , how true mate. For every victim, there is a victim`s familly.
All sad but true. I see ptsd as a social issue where every one needs to be educated and treated ... too many interactive dynamics to lay the total burden on the ptsd sufferer. Everyone is in the loop? ;)

Hey Harry .... lookit this verra cheeky face :P
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A Canadian Article

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I found a little Canadian comment article about ptsd and the forces, and am just sharing it with you-all.

http://www.canoe.ca/Health0202/05_stress-cp.html

So sad that ptsd sufferers are between the rock-and-the-hard-place when fessing up to having issues and needing help could mean professional suicide.

Anonymity is one way to start finding help ...and advice? People risk losing so much to come out of the closet ... I empathize. :-?
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Which is why the "Chat to a Listener" forum does not require registration in order to post.
The Listener group responds to all pm`s in total confidence, for any who need discretion :wink:
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harry hackedoff wrote:Which is why the "Chat to a Listener" forum does not require registration in order to post.
The Listener group responds to all pm`s in total confidence, for any who need discretion :wink:
I figured as much :wink: :wink:

I once worked for a crisis line (when I wasn't wobbly :eek:) in a small town ..... people would call after hours and get an answering service based out of a hotel switchboard requesting a phone number so the crisis volunter could call you back! ... I still wonder how many people just hung up. sigh :-?
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Post by Ploggers »

Harry, it is so true mate. PTSD is bad enough for the sufferer but for the wives/partners it equally bad at least and they have no chance of support least of all from the sufferer himself. One of the symptoms of PTSD is a tendancy to regress into yourself. Once that happens you are hardly likely to be worrying about others.

Everyone I know with PTSD; diagnosed or not, it is the wives who seem to have had the hardest time of it. Think of anyone you know who is a sufferer then think about the lives their partner has endured since the relevant event(s).

By the way, leave my blankets alone! Much as I tried to stack them neatly there was always some hairy arsed argie driving a jet insisted on knocking them over!
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Post by Kanadiana »

Let's not forget our kids. every day of my life I know I failed them in a million ways ... heartbreak is there. All that can be done is walk forward from today. Families suffer greatly, and I've never NOT been aware of that.

I really don't care what was done to me anymore. I only care what I've done to others, and that I don't cause suffering anymore. :(
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