Amir Khan fighting tonight... what are you’re views on the fight/fighter? I think he looks to be a top notch up and comer, but so many "possible" greats have fallen by the way side... just have to wait and see with this one.
good luck to him though what he’s show so far is top stuff and good for the country... hope he continues to learn and progress though the sport.
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Amir Khan fight
Very good fight... exciting! should be a big learning curve for Amir being knocked down but coming back like that, he's certainly not the finished article (but who expects him to be at only 20?) I personally hope he can keep learning and keep winning as he is.
great heart, speed and strength and a good British fighter, if he can neaten up the rough edges and carry on developing as a fighter then we could have a great on our hands... only time will tell.
Stokey
P.S. some decent heavy weight stuff up next (good old slug fest)... lovely jubly
great heart, speed and strength and a good British fighter, if he can neaten up the rough edges and carry on developing as a fighter then we could have a great on our hands... only time will tell.
Stokey
P.S. some decent heavy weight stuff up next (good old slug fest)... lovely jubly
Not so sure after tonight's fight tbh. Looked shaky in the 6th, after his knockdown did well to stay up although I think a better fighter would have finished him off.
Like the commentator said take away his speed and decent footwork he's just your average fighter. His style is to just go out and attack but he was vulnerable to a good fighter which he was up against tonight. I don't think he has the ability to outbox good fighters just yet IMO.
Only time will tell, get him up against european/world champions in a year or two, then we'll see what he's made of.
Like the commentator said take away his speed and decent footwork he's just your average fighter. His style is to just go out and attack but he was vulnerable to a good fighter which he was up against tonight. I don't think he has the ability to outbox good fighters just yet IMO.
Only time will tell, get him up against european/world champions in a year or two, then we'll see what he's made of.
True... he has a lot of learning to do, at twenty I think he is looking prosperous, I hope he doesn't try and move on too fast... more fighters like he has faced tonight (maybe a little better) should test him and find him out. He's young and learning and yes his style could do with some work, but time is on his side... lets hope he uses it wisely.Like the commentator said take away his speed and decent footwork he's just your average fighter. His style is to just go out and attack but he was vulnerable to a good fighter which he was up against tonight. I don't think he has the ability to outbox good fighters just yet IMO.
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They used to say the same thing about Ricky Hatton, there's always people who will tell you so and so is vulnerable to this and that, I don't usually bother listening to them, a fighter should be judged on what he does in the ring and if he keeps winning then it doesn't really matter what people say.hazholmes wrote:His style is to just go out and attack but he was vulnerable to a good fighter which he was up against tonight.
Amir fought well tonight, he took the punches and got back up and managed to finish the fight, job done really isn't it. He is going to get better as he get's more experience and I think he's got good prospects.
I think it's a shame how whenever we get a decent british boxer, or any sports man usually, people slag them off and point out their faults.
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What else would you expect from a heavy weight match mate, never mind one with both Skelton AND Sprott in it!!
Seems to me the heavy weight division should be renamed the over weight division, they just seem to come in as heavy as possible these days, it's no wonder they're so slow and cumbersome and spend 90% of the fight hugging each other just cause they're both so out of breath they need to hold onto each other just to stand up!
Give me MMA any day, now that's a real sport!!
Agreed! I retract that statement.That sounds pretty funny now.Stokey_14 wrote:
P.S. some decent heavy weight stuff up next
Can't believe I watched the whole Skelton v Sprott fight... It was shite!
As for...
There again I have to agree with that, Obviously heavy weights aren’t going to be nimble and quick machines (un-less another Ali comes along) so there will always be that slightly more sluggish feel to it where by the fight could ride on just one huge heffer of a punch but I’m sure there must be at least one quicker and better heavy weight out there, but even so I think we could be waiting along time before we see another supper division akin to that of Ali's day.Seems to me the heavy weight division should be renamed the over weight division, they just seem to come in as heavy as possible these days, it's no wonder they're so slow and cumbersome and spend 90% of the fight hugging each other just cause they're both so out of breath they need to hold onto each other just to stand up!
Tyson was the last great heavy weight (or Lewis, who in my opinion never got the credit he deserved)
on thing that’s spoilt boxing is the introduction of all the many different weight class's there’s millions! soon they will introduce a weight division per pound of body weight and well end up with super light heavy bantam fly weight or something daft! + all of the different governing bodies! everything is WBC, WBO, WBA etc etc.
All that said, I wouldn't stop watching/ training with the sport as I believe there’s a hell of a lot of good in it, and I’ve always loved a good scrap
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Boxing is a very corrupt sport, always has been and thats a shame.Stokey_14 wrote:Agreed! I retract that statement.That sounds pretty funny now.Stokey_14 wrote:
P.S. some decent heavy weight stuff up next
Can't believe I watched the whole Skelton v Sprott fight... It was shite!
As for...There again I have to agree with that, Obviously heavy weights aren’t going to be nimble and quick machines (un-less another Ali comes along) so there will always be that slightly more sluggish feel to it where by the fight could ride on just one huge heffer of a punch but I’m sure there must be at least one quicker and better heavy weight out there, but even so I think we could be waiting along time before we see another supper division akin to that of Ali's day.Seems to me the heavy weight division should be renamed the over weight division, they just seem to come in as heavy as possible these days, it's no wonder they're so slow and cumbersome and spend 90% of the fight hugging each other just cause they're both so out of breath they need to hold onto each other just to stand up!
Tyson was the last great heavy weight (or Lewis, who in my opinion never got the credit he deserved)
on thing that’s spoilt boxing is the introduction of all the many different weight class's there’s millions! soon they will introduce a weight division per pound of body weight and well end up with super light heavy bantam fly weight or something daft! + all of the different governing bodies! everything is WBC, WBO, WBA etc etc.
All that said, I wouldn't stop watching/ training with the sport as I believe there’s a hell of a lot of good in it, and I’ve always loved a good scrap
Stokey
On topic though, Khan should have gone down. He only won because that guy didnt take his advantage when he had it after he caught him across his jaw line and then again in the side of the head). Khan was complaining, saying that he was pushed over - complete sh*t. He got caught twice and his legs started to go, you could easily see that and he got punched to the deck.
He survived because Limond didnt beat the sh!t out of him when he had the advantage. the next round said it all because Khan came back swinging and out punched Limond by far.
Didnt even bother with the Skelton fight, personally i dont rate him.
Btw: there will probably never be another Ali ok.
AJ
"First with your head and then with your heart. Don't stop."
"First with your head and then with your heart. Don't stop."
Ture, but stranger things have happened and if you think about the time scale that another "great " could come along in then the chance is fairly high.Btw: there will probably never be another Ali ok.
ovcorse there wont be a exact duplicat to Ali but someone who is equaly as talented/gifted and dedicated could possable come along I certantly hope so!
nobody can tell.
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Yes you're right. All im saying is that no one will ever have his style again, it was the way he faught and no one has done it better than he has since. You never know, i could be wrong. At the moment there isn't really many out there whos coming through the levels or currently fighting that is being classed as a 'great'. Sure there are some extremely talented boxers who are absolutely awesome from everything with their foot work right up to their head movements when they strike the target or counter a punch. But we really havent anything THAT good yet (referring to Ali). Some of the last ones i would say that shocked the boxing world were the likes of boxers such as Benn, Tyson and McGuigan.Stokey_14 wrote:Ture, but stranger things have happened and if you think about the time scale that another "great " could come along in then the chance is fairly high.Btw: there will probably never be another Ali ok.
ovcorse there wont be a exact duplicat to Ali but someone who is equaly as talented/gifted and dedicated could possable come along I certantly hope so!
nobody can tell.
Stokey
They were gladiators.
AJ
"First with your head and then with your heart. Don't stop."
"First with your head and then with your heart. Don't stop."
Amir Khan's a great boxer, especially for his age, he's extremely quick and agile however, that Limond wasn't so much of a great fighter himself and Amir Khan still struggled, like everyone's said, if Limond was a big better he would of completely destroyed Khan due to his weakpoints. Khan's going out there giving it the all with his fights and interviews but he's still got the Russians, Americans and South Americans to go yet. If Khan doesn't sweep up on his downsides he's gonna be completely destroyed by the big lads running for the Commonwealth and World Championships!!
All in all though, Amir Khan is 20 years old and fighting brilliantly with so much room for improvement he could be fantastic, only time will tell
Only throwing in my 2p
Cheers
Jamie
All in all though, Amir Khan is 20 years old and fighting brilliantly with so much room for improvement he could be fantastic, only time will tell
Only throwing in my 2p
Cheers
Jamie
Amir Khan's a great boxer, especially for his age, he's extremely quick and agile however, that Limond wasn't so much of a great fighter himself and Amir Khan still struggled, like everyone's said, if Limond was a big better he would of completely destroyed Khan due to his weakpoints. Khan's going out there giving it the all with his fights and interviews but he's still got the Russians, Americans and South Americans to go yet. If Khan doesn't sweep up on his downsides he's gonna be completely destroyed by the big lads running for the Commonwealth and World Championships!!
All in all though, Amir Khan is 20 years old and fighting brilliantly with so much room for improvement he could be fantastic, only time will tell
Only throwing in my 2p
Cheers
Jamie
All in all though, Amir Khan is 20 years old and fighting brilliantly with so much room for improvement he could be fantastic, only time will tell
Only throwing in my 2p
Cheers
Jamie
agreed, one small point... add sugar Ray Leonard and Sugar Ray Robinson in to the mix as well they also where truly great (sure there where other's that I can't quite think of at the moment.)Yes you're right. All I’m saying is that no one will ever have his style again, it was the way he faught and no one has done it better than he has since. You never know, i could be wrong. At the moment there isn't really many out there whos coming through the levels or currently fighting that is being classed as a 'great'. Sure there are some extremely talented boxers who are absolutely awesome from everything with their foot work right up to their head movements when they strike the target or counter a punch. But we really havent anything THAT good yet (referring to Ali). Some of the last ones i would say that shocked the boxing world were the likes of boxers such as Benn, Tyson and McGuigan.
They were gladiators.
one of my favorite boxing interviews I saw was of Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard and Tyson (in his younger days) on a American program... it's on you tube some where really worth a watch, quite amusing how they all think the other two are the greatest of all time.
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Yeah i was talking about a slightly different time peroid. And yes, they were sh!t hot boxers, no arguing about that what so ever!Stokey_14 wrote:agreed, one small point... add sugar Ray Leonard and Sugar Ray Robinson in to the mix as well they also where truly great (sure there where other's that I can't quite think of at the moment.)Yes you're right. All I’m saying is that no one will ever have his style again, it was the way he faught and no one has done it better than he has since. You never know, i could be wrong. At the moment there isn't really many out there whos coming through the levels or currently fighting that is being classed as a 'great'. Sure there are some extremely talented boxers who are absolutely awesome from everything with their foot work right up to their head movements when they strike the target or counter a punch. But we really havent anything THAT good yet (referring to Ali). Some of the last ones i would say that shocked the boxing world were the likes of boxers such as Benn, Tyson and McGuigan.
They were gladiators.
one of my favorite boxing interviews I saw was of Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard and Tyson (in his younger days) on a American program... it's on you tube some where really worth a watch, quite amusing how they all think the other two are the greatest of all time.
Stokey
Ever boxed yourself Stokey?
AJ
"First with your head and then with your heart. Don't stop."
"First with your head and then with your heart. Don't stop."
got my first bout coming up soon hopefully (yet to be decided)... it's been delayed due to me having to wait to train with our gyms armature team because of lack of space, I’ve been having one on one training session with a trainer + odd one offs with a pro and generally getting ready so shouldn't be long as I start officially training with the armature team next week and then it up to our coach to say when he thinks I’m ready.
Soon as possible really, I've been training at the boxing gym for 2 1/2 too 3 years now though so he recons I should be ready fairly soon and progress quicker than someone who just jumps in with the armature club.
Stokey
Soon as possible really, I've been training at the boxing gym for 2 1/2 too 3 years now though so he recons I should be ready fairly soon and progress quicker than someone who just jumps in with the armature club.
Stokey
