I know the topic of drugs has been covered many times before, and i am starting this topic because i cant find anywhere, where it has been made clear about drugs when joining up. I have a close friend who has got his 2nd interview next saturday and despite being told never to touch cannabis agoin by his careers officer, he continues to smoke it almost every day, i have tried to make him see sence but it is not happening he just say that he will tell the interviewing officers on selection that someone gave him a 'secret agent' (this is the same as someone spiking your drink but with a cigarette). What i was wondering is will they let him pass on selection when he fails this urine test (because as far as im concerned it is a garaunteed fail) will they still pass him?
p.s This is a friend i am talking about, i have nver touched drugs.
Sorry if im making the mods angry by posting this because of previous drugs topics.
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He's a mong, and they will bin him. Honestly that's the most obvious, least convincing excuse I've ever heard, what does he think he's joining the f@#k Beavers? Really guv, it's not that you caught me red-handed, it's just that someone put ketchup on the doorknob!
On the other hand, since he doesn't even have the willpower to stop smoking for the two odd weeks it takes to clear a urine test, he clearly deserves binning. The system works!
PS As is made perfectly clear in all sorts of joining information, Army policy is zero tolerance: drugs = binned.
On the other hand, since he doesn't even have the willpower to stop smoking for the two odd weeks it takes to clear a urine test, he clearly deserves binning. The system works!
PS As is made perfectly clear in all sorts of joining information, Army policy is zero tolerance: drugs = binned.
I actually know somene else who came up positive on the test and they passed him because he told the secret agent story and he told me that the interviewing officer said the army can detect drugs for up to 12 weeks, do they take hair samples upon the start of basic training? Because the geeza who this topic is about was told by his careers officer that if he tests positive and days its passive smoke (which is what he told his careers officer) that they will then do a hair test because they can tell if it is passive or not.Sarastro wrote: On the other hand, since he doesn't even have the willpower to stop smoking for the two odd weeks it takes to clear a urine test, he clearly deserves binning. The system works!.
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I believe they only take a hair sample once you've failed a drugs test and then contest the results ie; by saying it was passive smoking or you'd been spiked. It's not something that is routinely done.
On the original topic, this guy is a complete looser and has no place in the army.
As for this so called "secret agent" thing who's seriously going to believe someone could do that without you knowing, you can smell that shit a mile off never mind if you have the thing in your mouth with just happens to be located under your bloody nose.
On the original topic, this guy is a complete looser and has no place in the army.
As for this so called "secret agent" thing who's seriously going to believe someone could do that without you knowing, you can smell that shit a mile off never mind if you have the thing in your mouth with just happens to be located under your bloody nose.
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Marijuana stays in your system for months, so basically he is f*cked! 
He will be lucky if it doesnt go on his permenant record. Drugs convictions aint cool...restriction of travelling to lots of countries in the world, plenty of jobs that dont take people on with a drugs conviction and the fact that you are stupid enough to get caught serves you right.
He will be lucky if it doesnt go on his permenant record. Drugs convictions aint cool...restriction of travelling to lots of countries in the world, plenty of jobs that dont take people on with a drugs conviction and the fact that you are stupid enough to get caught serves you right.
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I really cant wait to go to harrogate now, the housing estate where i am currently living there are drugs eveywhere, almost all of my mates smoke cannabis and some do much more hardcore stuff. It is so depressing being surrounded by drugs. I hate them and i dont understand how i have lots of friends saying they are joining the army yet are doing drugs daily. Is anyone else on the forum in the same sort of position i am?
sorry i just had to get all this off my chest.
sorry i just had to get all this off my chest.
Well my brother and his mate smoke weed.. my older brother did but quit now he has a daughter.. just concentrate on the army and you'll get there mate!ash2y wrote:I really cant wait to go to harrogate now, the housing estate where i am currently living there are drugs eveywhere, almost all of my mates smoke cannabis and some do much more hardcore stuff. It is so depressing being surrounded by drugs. I hate them and i dont understand how i have lots of friends saying they are joining the army yet are doing drugs daily. Is anyone else on the forum in the same sort of position i am?
sorry i just had to get all this off my chest.
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Yes they did but it was only that if you had taken them in the past you would still be allowed to join.SO19 wrote:Wasn't there some fuss a while back because the Army relaxed it's drugs policy so they could get more bods in?
In any event, yes, your friend is an idiot.
There should always be a total ban.
ie; someone who used to smoke weed but quit can now join the army where as before if they knew he'd taken drugs at some point he wouldn't have been allowed to join.
I think that this is fair but i also think that people joining the army with a history of drugs should be more liable to random drugs testing. i think that people who have never taken drugs before the army are highly unlikely to start when they are in the army.Alfa wrote:SO19 wrote:Wasn't there some fuss a while back because the Army relaxed it's drugs policy so they could get more bods in?
In any event, yes, your friend is a
Yes they did but it was only that if you had taken them in the past you would still be allowed to join.
ie; someone who used to smoke weed but quit can now join the army where as before if they knew he'd taken drugs at some point he wouldn't have been allowed to join.
