Bench/Chest Press

[marinewannabe]

Another pointless topic, and another chance for inflated ego's to inflate further still.

Nobody cares what you claim to bench, for they cannot see you bench it.

Dangermouse, you are curious to know the average potential lift.

Why?

If its pointless then why come and post here ? theres no obligatino to read the post let alone post on it , stop stirring things up , the lad asked a question ... posters answered it. Endex

[rc]

and why exactly do all these members find their own bodyweight so important?

Is that not obvious ?

Rich.

[ADDiction]

Don't label me as a stirrer.

Well considering they seem to think the heavier you are the more you will bench, no it isn't obvious.

[roger that]

addiction you are a stirrer. this is a fitness and training forum and as far as im aware, bench pressing comes into that category. now im sure dangermouse didnt intend it to become a 'i can lift more that you' thread so dont start adding your little comments in like ive noticed you do in other topics.
its people like you that put other potentials off from signing up and using this absolute bloody goldmine.
back onto the subject. your 1 rep max or whatever has nout to do with how big you are. there are guys who have less meat on them than a crisp yet can still lift heavy and vice versa. personally my 1RM is 100kg. im 5'11" and weigh 12.6stone

[ADDiction]

You certainly do seem to have a problem with me, don't you roger that?

Thankyou for reinstating my point though, I appreciate that.

[rc]

Well considering they seem to think the heavier you are the more you will bench, no it isn't obvious.

Obviously there are other factors involved than body weight alone, but I'm sure there will be a fairly significant positive correlation between body weight and the amount one can lift.

Rich.

[roger that]

no mate i dont, i have a problem with you giving these guys a hard time and why? if the thread is THAT bad im sure the mods will step in and say something/remove it or whatever. but you just seem to take it upon yourself to criticise. lifes to short to argue over petty things. if you dont like it you do not have to post.

[ADDiction]

According to you I am a brown nosed stirrer.

I'm sure I have contributed far more advice to this forum, then you have been able to in seven posts.

I'm a good boy really .

[Polynikes]

Interesting.

I was under the impression that you aren't asked to perform your one rep max at lympstone...

I was also under the impression that, if you were to lift weights for RT, that they should be low weight high rep...

Although not pointless, perhaps this topic shouldn't be in the Royal Marines section.

[ali_hire]

I'm with Fodd and ADDiction on this one. Lifting heavy weights in preparation for PRMC or RT is only going to have a negative effect.

If you really feel the need to use weights then drop the load to about half of what you would normally do and up the reps.

Remember being a Royal is not about being able to lift ridiculously heavy weights, it's about being able to perform over and over again.

[marinewannabe]

once again some pathetic people who have nothing better to do have come out with the old ''its nothing to do with the marines or blah blah blah '' i arnt starting anything here but where the hell does it say this is for prmc or poc on this post ?? fair enough its posted in the marines section but the kid was asking a fitness training question . so leave it and in the correlation to benching not helping down at lympstone ... it does i used to bench press alot and before even going for my prmc i could do 55 press ups , once i was in r.t i could fly threw press ups .

[Spence]

Lifting heavy weights in preparation for PRMC or RT is only going to have a negative effect.

Care to elaborate on this?

I'll say it now as im sure someone else would,its no good lifting all that weight if you cant turn it into functional strength,for example you ask a meat head in the gym whos benching loads of weight to do some press ups,and its most likely they wont get more than 15-20.

I suppose by "meathead" you mean a person who trains with weights purely for aesthetic reasons? If so they why would they need to beable to do more than 15-20? How would doing 60 press ups be "Functional" for their goals?

I read this quite alot on these forums, it seems to me that most people here believe that lifting heavy weights somehow makes you slow and unathletic. This is just not the case.

[marinewannabe]

good point there spence , look at some sprinters built like tanks they are , highly muscular very powerful and fast , yeh fair enough there is a point where to much muscle mass can begin to slow the body down , e.g a highly muscled 250lb bodybuilder but thats due to them not training for strength but more for size and looks. benching can and usually will help you increase your press up score .

[hazholmes]

To answer the OP's question....

I don't have a scooby how much I can bench as I haven't been to a gym of any sort in probably about a year. I have a few weights at home that I use as part of my training. The only resistance work I need is to push my own weight. I would however like to know what an average would be for PRM.

^^^^^^^
That is probably how some people should have approached this thread if they didn't think it was relevant or neccessary. No need to go on a rant about how 'you don't need to bench a lot' and 'you wont survive.'

Answer the question if you want, if you don't want to don't post, no need to start dismissing it.

[degrees of passion]

I suppose by "meathead" you mean a person who trains with weights purely for aesthetic reasons? If so they why would they need to beable to do more than 15-20? How would doing 60 press ups be "Functional" for their goals?

No.i also train for aesthetic reasons but im not a meathead,what i mean is those typical bouncer types who do very little reps with big weights and short contractions to get muscle bulk.if thats all they want then they dont need to be able to do 60 press ups,but the point im getting at is that the results of doing the bench press are less functional in that your only really trained to do the bench press and you'll find that although these people who train like meatheads can lift heavy weights,they get tired after very few reps,which is not very functional at all is it-as opposed to someone who has trained doing press ups where they have much more muscular endurace,a better core and a much more stable platform with which to carry out physical activities,like those that marines are required to do funnily enough .

i see what your saying about it being a myth that lifting heavy weights makes you slow and unathletic etc and yes i agree to a point,but its the way these 'meatheads' lift these heavy weights that makes them unathletic,they dont do the full range of motion and as a result their muscles are shorter but bulkier,you only need to look at the way meathead bouncers move and you can see they are much more inflexible,but if you do the weights properly then theres no reason why you can be flexible and lift heavy weights.

I understand that the lad was asking a general question and thought he'd find an answer in the marine section,i wasn't implying he wanted to know cos hes training specifically for PRMC or RT,but seen as this is the marines section i thought it needed explaining that the corp isnt looking for how much you can bench press,incase anyone who was reading it got the wrong idea-its just advice for people to take or leave as they wish.