1 handed press ups

[xcj]

be careful though hobbsy, when you lose weight the press ups wont be easier for all that long. Your body will realise (quite quickly) it doesn't need to be able to support x press ups for an 81 kg person but x press ups for a say 75kg person. Then the same amount of press ups will be just as hard at 75kg as they were at 81kg because the body will lose what it doesn't need.



EDIT: Thats if you even do notice they are any easier. Obviously you'll lose weight gradually so you might not even notice it being all that much easier. Nothing you can do about it unless you come up with a healthy way to lose a few kilos instantly. If you do, PM me because i want to sell your idea.

[phenom]

The lesson of the ego

The point to be made about ego is that man should use his ego and not be used by ego or blinded by it.

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When your 90 and can do a 1 finger handstand, then I'll be impressed.

[yet_mae]

Very impressive if your joining some sort of Martial Arts club or training with Mr Miyagee.

Doesn't look like it would come in that handy in the Marines, maybe your trigger finger will be a bit stronger, not much else though.

Would be impressive to show the birds though.

[chris_]

What do you need to do 1 handed press ups for ?

I'd just concentrate on doing normal press ups and diomands in regards to prmc.

Maybe they look good to the lads but quite pointless if your looking for a killer workout.

pointless?
as has been said yes they shouldnt be regularily done by most as it will take its toll on your elbows and wrists. however, you can perfectly well train to do them safely (people who do them for world records are a good example). you need a very solid number of normal press ups before using one arm only.

regarding they are pointless, doing a one armed press up can be used to several ends. firstly, it simulates a press up with around twice the normal weight (people tend to not distribute weight exactly 50 - 50). using a heavier weight is a good way to increase strength. if you do bicep curls you dont use a 1kg dumbell and do 1000 reps because the strength increase would be so slow compared to doing 5 reps on 15kg.

secondly, people can work up an imbalance in their arms and pecs. doing lots of two handed press ups will only increase the imbalance. doing one handed press ups on the weaker side can help even things up (again above rules apply. the arm and joints must have developed suitable strength to withstand the weight).

and yet_mae "if it's just training towards prmc then i would just stick to things that will be on the prmc or similar exercises" is a silly attitude to take really.

your body is very complicated, and many exercises are not isolated muscle exercises, so you should take a complete body fitness view. bottom field does not consist of only press ups and sit ups. doing deadlifts is not tested on your prmc, but it will be a great help when doing a firemans carry or similar.

train for life not for the prmc. having all fit strong muscles but being able to do only 20 press ups will set you up better for a lot of physical tasks than being able to do 100 press ups but being poorly trained in many areas.

also, AJ is right. an ex bootneck is not a doctor (unless they actually are a doctor). most advice regarding fitness comes from experience mainly, and also a bit from what you get taught. a 15 year old is perfectly capable of experiencing what works and what does, and can also be taught by teachers, parents etc.
what you said is the same as if ramz said "you can only talk about one handed press ups if you do one handed press ups".

i know of at least once while climbing i have had to support a lot of my bodyweight with one arm when a foothold has broken away. i am pretty sure that if i couldnt do a one handed pull up i would not have had adequate strength in my hand and wrist to keep hold of the rock face.
obviously i wouldnt have died but it was a good few feet since my last peg so i would have had a nasty bang into the rock below me.
now a PTI on my prmc may not tell me to demonstrate a one handed pull up, but what you can do in real life is where it really matters.

i dont see how one handed press ups can but that much extra strain on your spine. now, back muscles i can see that. but doing one armed plank exercises is not considered dangerous (to my knowledge), for a reasonably fit person, so you can easily train the muscles to a good level.

obviously, there was not a real need to post about them here which is the cause of probably a lot of hostile reactions. i dont think there was a need to tell everybody, put nobody should slam someones elses training if it works for them. nobody can tell the future. who knows, one day he may end up in a situation where being able to do a one handed press up might be a massive help.

outline any health risks, but if he wants to do them let him be. hes not coming round your house at 4am to make you count them, so accept it doesnt affect you if he does, and agree to disagree.

[mfat_man]

Chris-

Look at Artist's posts on this again.

The only people that I have seen doing this were show-offs at Judo.

[ADDiction]

The only reason anyone will ever care what you can do in the gym, is to work out how to beat you, not to praise you.

You should be proud of your achievment, but unless your a sporting legend, just keep it to yourself.

[degrees of passion]

Does bodyweight play a part in how many marine style press ups you can do?

Are you serious?Obviously the more you weigh the harder it is to push yourself up! There is though the fact that some of that weight will be muscle but obviously it depends on how them muscles are trained,ie/The S.A.I.D. principal states that the body will adapt specifically to the demands placed on it.

With regard to the one arm press ups,well id say there fine for maximum strength training,but to be honest the corp looks for a more functional sort of strength,that of muscular endurance and fitness if you like,ie/being able to repeat the exercise many many times without tiring out quickly.The explosive strength that can be found in doing the clap push ups is also helpful,but as with maximum strength should never take priority of muscular endurance training,something which is going to be much more useful in the corp.Id like to be able to do them but only as an afterthought to being able to do 100s and 100s of push ups,for me one arm push ups are pretty much a party trick

[yet_mae]

Agreed DOP.

Clap push ups I totally agree with as explosivness is key, after a few clap push ups, normal push ups seem alot easier.Also sprawls are good for explosivness, maybe go all out on tuck jumps then sprawls are tough if you've had a good beasting session.Seen them doing it on UFC training alot. I agree with Chris that training is for life and not jsut for prmc.

But as this is a forum for Marines and wannabes and most lads are looking to pass their prmc's I just didn't see how 1 arm press ups are going to de me any favours, if it works for you then fine, but I thought most people here were in the same boat and are looking for exercises that will get them through prmc and maybe the begining of RT.

I'm not getting in an argument over 1 arm press ups, and I didn't mean you can't learn anything from a 15 year old, I said I would prefer to learn how to be a bootneck, from a bootneck or ex bootneck, me personally I come here to see how Marines train, or any military train, or anything that will be beneficial to me on prmc, what he said will not help me out.

If it works for anyone else then thats good, but i've never needed, or wanted to do them, unless I wanna show off, and that's all the poster was aiming to do.

[TT]

Fellas, take a step back for a minute

There are ex-bootnecks on here, show them the appropriate respect they deserve. You will learn very quickly in RT that what you think you know counts for absolutely nothing and noone wants to hear it even if it did.

If you want to come on hear spouting about what you have heard, a meaningless experience unrelated to the subject or what a "mate" has told you then you have to accept a barrage of abuse. This is because the very nature of ignorance does not allow for you to see your ignorance. This is where the experienced step in and help you out - the Ex-bootnecks.

The opinion of a 15 year old counts for bugger all in the world of the Royal Marines. Not only is age, understanding and experience against him but he has no idea about the RM first hand. So all in all he can shut his noise and wind his neck in.

I think some humilty needs to be injected into the children posting on this forum and I'd also suggest now that you get used to showing respect to your elders and betters.

As for fitness theories, The Royal Marines began in 1664, what they do works and the evidence is there to see. They may not be sports scientists, doctors or physios but they have done it so they know what they're talking about - you lot are not any of those things either and have zero experience (and please students don't even open that debate because you'll learn when you leave uni that you know f*ck all too)

So I suggest you do yourselves a favour and keep your mouths shut and your ears open, there is so much to learn from these men and it's sickening to see you wasting an invaluable chance.

You may not aspire to be like the Bootnecks on here, fair enough, but if you want to become one then accept your place at the bottom of the pile until you get your lid. They may snap at you but that's what happens, deal with it or wrap on the RM.


On topic - One armed press ups . . . . you loser

[fodd]

TT
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:23 pm Post subject:
Fellas, take a step back for a minute

There are ex-bootnecks on here, show them the appropriate respect they deserve. You will learn very quickly in RT that what you think you know counts for absolutely nothing and noone wants to hear it even if it did.

If you want to come on hear spouting about what you have heard, a meaningless experience unrelated to the subject or what a "mate" has told you then you have to accept a barrage of abuse. This is because the very nature of ignorance does not allow for you to see your ignorance. This is where the experienced step in and help you out - the Ex-bootnecks.

The opinion of a 15 year old counts for bugger all in the world of the Royal Marines. Not only is age, understanding and experience against him but he has no idea about the RM first hand. So all in all he can shut his noise and wind his neck in.

I think some humilty needs to be injected into the children posting on this forum and I'd also suggest now that you get used to showing respect to your elders and betters.

As for fitness theories, The Royal Marines began in 1664, what they do works and the evidence is there to see. They may not be sports scientists, doctors or physios but they have done it so they know what they're talking about - you lot are not any of those things either and have zero experience (and please students don't even open that debate because you'll learn when you leave uni that you know f*ck all too)

So I suggest you do yourselves a favour and keep your mouths shut and your ears open, there is so much to learn from these men and it's sickening to see you wasting an invaluable chance.

You may not aspire to be like the Bootnecks on here, fair enough, but if you want to become one then accept your place at the bottom of the pile until you get your lid. They may snap at you but that's what happens, deal with it or wrap on the RM.


On topic - One armed press ups . . . . you loser

couldn't of said it better when i was a nod we had loads of lads who were from university and unless your a yo it counts for shit! take onboard what the old and bold i stress old only messing say as they are there to help young lads get in the mob just dont disrepect them.

[yet_mae]

Finally a couple of posts I totally agree with.

This forum is to learn how to be or train like a Marine, not to show off.

Glad to see some opinions from people who you can tell are a little more mature, this forum is getting over run by kids, and that's fine, i'm happy they want such a career like RM.

But coming here and lipping off to elders or experienced is daft. Fine i'm not perfect and no-one is, but there seems to be alot of tension in some of thse discussions at the moment.

I'm here to learn how to get through my prmc, not to be a f@#k show off.

[FizzMan]

On topic - One armed press ups . . . . you loser

Hi. I'm new here and have to say that was a good post up until that point.

So I take it none of you guys who are rebuking the idea of one armed press ups have never heard of unilateral training? That is in simple terms the use of only one side of your body. Like doing curls with only one arm as opposed to using a bar. One armed press ups are an excellent means of balancing out any imbalance that someone training has developed so long as the person uses the correct technique.

Before anyone starts on about what the marines want, they want fit lads. Anyone knows that. And there are many ways to get fit. The body adapts to a set routine. Throwing in unilateral reps in this context not only has the advantage of a little bit of training with heavyer weight on an exercise you can do anywhere it also allows you to vary things and keep your body on its toes.

Anyone who wants to answer the extremely ignorant "well marines don't do them so why should we". So what? Theres many things not done in all branches of the armed forces. Theres things that are done that perhaps should not be. Did any of you know how much pressure and stress marine style press ups put on the wrists for example?

There are many ways and means to get to a standard of strength and fitness. As many of you seem to know the body responds to varied training. Unilateral training is just that is it not?

[Frank S.]

a good way of fukcing up your arm as it's putting too much strain on

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[mfat_man]

Fellas, take a step back for a minute

There are ex-bootnecks on here, show them the appropriate respect they deserve. You will learn very quickly in RT that what you think you know counts for absolutely nothing and noone wants to hear it even if it did.

If you want to come on hear spouting about what you have heard, a meaningless experience unrelated to the subject or what a "mate" has told you then you have to accept a barrage of abuse. This is because the very nature of ignorance does not allow for you to see your ignorance. This is where the experienced step in and help you out - the Ex-bootnecks.

The opinion of a 15 year old counts for bugger all in the world of the Royal Marines. Not only is age, understanding and experience against him but he has no idea about the RM first hand. So all in all he can shut his noise and wind his neck in.

I think some humilty needs to be injected into the children posting on this forum and I'd also suggest now that you get used to showing respect to your elders and betters.

As for fitness theories, The Royal Marines began in 1664, what they do works and the evidence is there to see. They may not be sports scientists, doctors or physios but they have done it so they know what they're talking about - you lot are not any of those things either and have zero experience (and please students don't even open that debate because you'll learn when you leave uni that you know f*ck all too)

So I suggest you do yourselves a favour and keep your mouths shut and your ears open, there is so much to learn from these men and it's sickening to see you wasting an invaluable chance.

You may not aspire to be like the Bootnecks on here, fair enough, but if you want to become one then accept your place at the bottom of the pile until you get your lid. They may snap at you but that's what happens, deal with it or wrap on the RM.


On topic - One armed press ups . . . . you loser

TT

These are very true words.

The mods get accused of heavy handedness in locking threads etc but on the last page a former Royal made the point of these press-ups being a waste of space and was more or less ignored:evil:

[yet_mae]

So if Marine style press ups put so much pressure on BOTH writst with TWO hands, then why the hell would you do it with 1 hand? Totally contradicting what your saying in the same paragraph.

Some people are obviously not reading all the posts properly.

As for me, I won't be doing them. This 1 arm press up thing is silly on this forum, it should be moved to the martial arts web sites some where very far away from a royal mariens forum.