alrite guys ,
im new to this forum so thought id try it out , you all seem to know what your talking about. several months ago i was dischared medically from the Royal marines , for breathing difficulties perhaps realated to asthma. Ive been waiting for all my documents and everything to be sent off from all the tests ive had done .
Problem is and now i know im going to get some slagging off for this perhaps worse i deserve it . I didn;t have breathing difficulties, i lied and i didn't do it because i didn't like the marines training or that i cudn't handle it, i loved it , i did it for my own personal reasons , one being during recruit training my mum and dad split up , and my dad was moving abroad to new zealand the same week this upset me enough to say the least i was very close to both of them .To top this off my girlfriend rang me up to say that she was moving , to scotland and that maybe it wasn't good for us to go on seeing each other under the circumstances oh yeh one more thing she thought she was pregnent , so you know, not the best of circumstaces . I just couldn't concentrate on the job and seen i was only two weeks into training i just couldn't wait the four weeks to leave so i got out the way i explained before . After i had done it i thought what the f@xx have i just done, ive runined the best thing i had going for me , but i made my bed so i had to lie in it . When i got home it was worse my girlfriend had already gone and my parents were basically getting rid of the house to a buyer who had been interested for a while . theres alot more problems involved in this but its too much to write, ive waffled on enough and i dont expect anyone to read all of this its very long.
Anyway lads question is shall i wait and see what happens with the medical to get me back in rt or shall i come clean ?? or will this ruin my chances for been dishonest . I arn't expecting any nice answers or even any answers at all ,im stupid for doing it , but any helpful advice would be greatly appreciated. all im wanting is another chance to prove myself in something ive always dreamed of doing .
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Ouch! Sorry to hear all that m8, sounds like you've had a rough time!
All I can say is what I would do in your shoes....I'd keep quiet, when your results come back clean (which hopefully they should) you'll get your chance to start RT again. People do get wrongly diagnosed as chest infections give the same symptoms but if you turn around and said sorry I lied about that whole asthma symptom thing to be honest I think they may tell you where to go!
It all depends on you really and if you can live with it, remembering that if you do tell them and they don't see things your way.....you may not get back in at all!
All I can say is what I would do in your shoes....I'd keep quiet, when your results come back clean (which hopefully they should) you'll get your chance to start RT again. People do get wrongly diagnosed as chest infections give the same symptoms but if you turn around and said sorry I lied about that whole asthma symptom thing to be honest I think they may tell you where to go!
It all depends on you really and if you can live with it, remembering that if you do tell them and they don't see things your way.....you may not get back in at all!
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yeh does sound like you have had it pretty rough mate, iv had it pretty rough with my family aswel but i wont go into that. i would honestly come clean with them mate. i'd go in to talk to them and explain what you have been through and why you did what you did and if they tell you to get out of there sight then fair enough damage done its your own fault, OR!! they might understand your reasons and respect you for coming clean and give you another chance for you to prove you are a decent lad who can be trusted in future and be a potential loyal marine.
but its all down to you mate, personally thats what i would do because lying to people such as the royal marines would eat me up inside as i have so much respect for them as im sure you do too
anyway head up mate and stay strong in what ever you do
but its all down to you mate, personally thats what i would do because lying to people such as the royal marines would eat me up inside as i have so much respect for them as im sure you do too
anyway head up mate and stay strong in what ever you do
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cheers for the advice fellas , honestly greatly appreciated. You wouldn't believe how much this has been eaten me up since the first night i got back , only problem is i want to come clean but if i do and they turn around and tell me where to go , thats it . honestly dont know lads im going to have a good think anyway.
All I can say is come clean and explain in full why you have done what you have done. In fact you should have spoken to the Welfare Officer or even the unit Padre whilst you were still at CTCRM really. It's not unknown for blokes to be given extended leave in certain circumstances such as yours. Or at least it was when I was in.
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yeh i wanted to go to the welfare office and see what was said but at the time i just made a decision that i felt was right for me , a confused decision if you like , and afterwards i wished i'd done what you have said to do artist as you know what your talking about . Anyway ill see what happens with the medical.
my parents split too, i tend to look on the funny sides, ie they split just as i failed my first prmc after leaving school,double wamee.
anyhow getting back into training now and getting used to week with dad weekend with mum ect.
i suggest you focus on royal marines, sinse i feel like if i can get into marines i wont have to worry about anything else but passing thus..hopefuly getting some of the load off your mind,maybe this might help you.
anyhow getting back into training now and getting used to week with dad weekend with mum ect.
i suggest you focus on royal marines, sinse i feel like if i can get into marines i wont have to worry about anything else but passing thus..hopefuly getting some of the load off your mind,maybe this might help you.
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Apart from your spelling,marinewannabe wrote:alrite guys ,
im new to this forum so thought id try it out , you all seem to know what your talking about. several months ago i was dischared medically from the Royal marines , for breathing difficulties perhaps realated to asthma. Ive been waiting for all my documents and everything to be sent off from all the tests ive had done .
Problem is and now i know im going to get some slagging off for this perhaps worse i deserve it . I didn;t have breathing difficulties, i lied and i didn't do it because i didn't like the marines training or that i cudn't handle it, i loved it , i did it for my own personal reasons , one being during recruit training my mum and dad split up , and my dad was moving abroad to new zealand the same week this upset me enough to say the least i was very close to both of them .To top this off my girlfriend rang me up to say that she was moving , to scotland and that maybe it wasn't good for us to go on seeing each other under the circumstances oh yeh one more thing she thought she was pregnent , so you know, not the best of circumstaces . I just couldn't concentrate on the job and seen i was only two weeks into training i just couldn't wait the four weeks to leave so i got out the way i explained before . After i had done it i thought what the f@xx have i just done, ive runined the best thing i had going for me , but i made my bed so i had to lie in it . When i got home it was worse my girlfriend had already gone and my parents were basically getting rid of the house to a buyer who had been interested for a while . theres alot more problems involved in this but its too much to write, ive waffled on enough and i dont expect anyone to read all of this its very long.
Anyway lads question is shall i wait and see what happens with the medical to get me back in rt or shall i come clean ?? or will this ruin my chances for been dishonest . I arn't expecting any nice answers or even any answers at all ,im stupid for doing it , but any helpful advice would be greatly appreciated. all im wanting is another chance to prove myself in something ive always dreamed of doing .
What a wonderfully honest post.
I really hope your dream comes to fruition.
Wholley.
as has been said keep quite if your astma free then you will be medicaly clear'ed all is ok if you own up consequences could be dire keep quite and stick with the medical route
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If it was me personally, I'd keep quiet about it. As has been mentioned, people get discharged wrongly with asthma like symptoms. At the end of the day, if you go for it again and have a medical and it's clear, then no one knows any better and you can start training again. But if you tell them you made the whole thing up they might take a dim view of you.
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Re: bad decision
Go for it, get back in there and sieze your dream - it may not come around again. You have a second chance - capture it and dont look back.marinewannabe wrote:alrite guys ,
im new to this forum so thought id try it out , you all seem to know what your talking about. several months ago i was dischared medically from the Royal marines , for breathing difficulties perhaps realated to asthma. Ive been waiting for all my documents and everything to be sent off from all the tests ive had done .
Problem is and now i know im going to get some slagging off for this perhaps worse i deserve it . I didn;t have breathing difficulties, i lied and i didn't do it because i didn't like the marines training or that i cudn't handle it, i loved it , i did it for my own personal reasons , one being during recruit training my mum and dad split up , and my dad was moving abroad to new zealand the same week this upset me enough to say the least i was very close to both of them .To top this off my girlfriend rang me up to say that she was moving , to scotland and that maybe it wasn't good for us to go on seeing each other under the circumstances oh yeh one more thing she thought she was pregnent , so you know, not the best of circumstaces . I just couldn't concentrate on the job and seen i was only two weeks into training i just couldn't wait the four weeks to leave so i got out the way i explained before . After i had done it i thought what the f@xx have i just done, ive runined the best thing i had going for me , but i made my bed so i had to lie in it . When i got home it was worse my girlfriend had already gone and my parents were basically getting rid of the house to a buyer who had been interested for a while . theres alot more problems involved in this but its too much to write, ive waffled on enough and i dont expect anyone to read all of this its very long.
Anyway lads question is shall i wait and see what happens with the medical to get me back in rt or shall i come clean ?? or will this ruin my chances for been dishonest . I arn't expecting any nice answers or even any answers at all ,im stupid for doing it , but any helpful advice would be greatly appreciated. all im wanting is another chance to prove myself in something ive always dreamed of doing .
All the best.
AJ
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marinewannabe,
I'm just wondering if you have a history of being prone to stress or depression under difficult circustances? If so it may be worth having a rethink about a military career or at least the role you would like to fill. I don't say this to put you off but at the end of the day the last thing anyone with mental health problems wants to do is throw themselves into a situation where their mental health is likely to suffer even more or where they are likely to find themselves unable to do their job. Oviously anyone is capable of breaking down under the stress of operations but those with mental health problems are particularly at risk.
Having said that, going on the things you have mentioned it sounds like a lot has come flying at you in one go and not just everyday stresses. Family is important and I don't blame you for doing what perhaps you mistakenly thought was right by putting them before all else. What I would say is to bare in mind that if you do get back in and make it through training, visiting home even under special circumstances is not often possible. You will be expected to do your job regardless of the circumstances. If you don't you might find yourself in trouble.
If I were in your position I would have a good think about all of what I have mentioned. Decide if you really want to go through with this and are 100% confident that you can handle it mentally. It may just be a case of you not being ready at this moment in time. If so wait until you have matured (no offence intended) and try at a later date. If I were in your position I wouldn't mention that I'd lied.
This is only my personal opinion and you are welcome to ignore or heed my advice as you wish. Good luck to you whatever you decide to do.
I'm just wondering if you have a history of being prone to stress or depression under difficult circustances? If so it may be worth having a rethink about a military career or at least the role you would like to fill. I don't say this to put you off but at the end of the day the last thing anyone with mental health problems wants to do is throw themselves into a situation where their mental health is likely to suffer even more or where they are likely to find themselves unable to do their job. Oviously anyone is capable of breaking down under the stress of operations but those with mental health problems are particularly at risk.
Having said that, going on the things you have mentioned it sounds like a lot has come flying at you in one go and not just everyday stresses. Family is important and I don't blame you for doing what perhaps you mistakenly thought was right by putting them before all else. What I would say is to bare in mind that if you do get back in and make it through training, visiting home even under special circumstances is not often possible. You will be expected to do your job regardless of the circumstances. If you don't you might find yourself in trouble.
If I were in your position I would have a good think about all of what I have mentioned. Decide if you really want to go through with this and are 100% confident that you can handle it mentally. It may just be a case of you not being ready at this moment in time. If so wait until you have matured (no offence intended) and try at a later date. If I were in your position I wouldn't mention that I'd lied.
This is only my personal opinion and you are welcome to ignore or heed my advice as you wish. Good luck to you whatever you decide to do.
