i read a little bit in the evening standard today that the decline in poppy-wearing is due to them being seen as 'prowar' or that they are a symbol of supporting war??!
speaking to a guy i was working with, he then tells me that people are making up all kinds of weird BS about objections to poppywearing and reading more into it than its intended for.
so, in this age of PC some ignorant shits with too much time thinking of things to screw with have; in my opinion just insulted the memories of millions of dead - the ones who died for the freedoms said idiots currently enjoy.
dont know what to say other than that, but needed to rant.
SP
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"poppies seen as pro-war"
"poppies seen as pro-war"
SP
The line between BS and PC is thin and blurry
The line between BS and PC is thin and blurry
Haven't seen or heard of anything to that affect up here. In fact, the mint released a limited edition commemorative quarter with a red poppy in the middle.
Let the pricks be pricks, they want to forget their past? Good, then they can repeat it.
I wonder if it dawns on them that they can only say what they're saying cause someone spilled blood.
Let the pricks be pricks, they want to forget their past? Good, then they can repeat it.
I wonder if it dawns on them that they can only say what they're saying cause someone spilled blood.
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There was some woman on the radio (cant remember who - I listen to the radio in my sleep and just woke up and heard a snippet) and she was basically saying the same thing. That she was boycotting the wearing of the poppy because she was against the war in Iraq.
Why can't people seperate their feelings and politics on the war and their support of troops. I honestly don't believe you have to be in favour of war to support the troops fighting it both now and in years gone by.
Why can't people seperate their feelings and politics on the war and their support of troops. I honestly don't believe you have to be in favour of war to support the troops fighting it both now and in years gone by.
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Spooky,
My Grandfather and Father WWI and WW11 respectively Wore Poppy's on Rememberance Day.I shall wear one on Sunday,though I'll be working.I had to clear it with my boss as"Additions to Uniform"Are generally frowned upon.
"At The Going Down of the Sun and in the Morning,We will remember Them"
Wholley.
My Grandfather and Father WWI and WW11 respectively Wore Poppy's on Rememberance Day.I shall wear one on Sunday,though I'll be working.I had to clear it with my boss as"Additions to Uniform"Are generally frowned upon.
"At The Going Down of the Sun and in the Morning,We will remember Them"
Wholley.
Poppies
This sort of claim that Poppies are pro war has been around for years, there is always some sad bastard trying to make his or her name by trying to get things changed. There has been a white poppy idea for more years than I can remember.
NOW THE RED POPPIES
I have been out selling them all week and all I can say is the response has been fantastic, I have been raking the cash in on street collections at about £100.00 an hour, people have been giving me all sorts of paper money from £20.00 notes down wards, even people that already purchased a poppy, still gave me their lose change. Even the children have been buying them, now what they do need is more poppy sellers, so next year get out there and join in.
This sort of claim that Poppies are pro war has been around for years, there is always some sad bastard trying to make his or her name by trying to get things changed. There has been a white poppy idea for more years than I can remember.
NOW THE RED POPPIES
I have been out selling them all week and all I can say is the response has been fantastic, I have been raking the cash in on street collections at about £100.00 an hour, people have been giving me all sorts of paper money from £20.00 notes down wards, even people that already purchased a poppy, still gave me their lose change. Even the children have been buying them, now what they do need is more poppy sellers, so next year get out there and join in.
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Pasha,
You just triggered a memory from the dim age (under 8yrs old). The Vietnam war was still ongoing and I was too young to understand the meaning of it, but the local VFW used to go door-to-door selling poppies. Mom and dad always bought (and wore) them.
Sadly, I don't recall seeing anyone wearing poppies in more than 30 yrs. Of course, this was only my home town, so I can't speak for the rest of the country in that regard.
Julie
You just triggered a memory from the dim age (under 8yrs old). The Vietnam war was still ongoing and I was too young to understand the meaning of it, but the local VFW used to go door-to-door selling poppies. Mom and dad always bought (and wore) them.
Sadly, I don't recall seeing anyone wearing poppies in more than 30 yrs. Of course, this was only my home town, so I can't speak for the rest of the country in that regard.
Julie
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Pasha,
Its my understanding that the poppy is worn by the British on Rememberance Sunday as a reminder of the fields of Flanders where so many young lads lost their lives.Not just British but also German and French.
As the US"Dough Boys" did not enter the war until 1917 the poppy has never been seen here as a mark of respect.I Shall however wear mine while at work on Sunday with respect and rememberance to those who went before.
Wholley.
Its my understanding that the poppy is worn by the British on Rememberance Sunday as a reminder of the fields of Flanders where so many young lads lost their lives.Not just British but also German and French.
As the US"Dough Boys" did not enter the war until 1917 the poppy has never been seen here as a mark of respect.I Shall however wear mine while at work on Sunday with respect and rememberance to those who went before.
Wholley.
If people really want to think the poppy is a 'prowar' symbol then let them think it is. These are the kind of people who go out to Iraq as human shields and pray for a special forces rescue when they are captured. A lot of my friends are the students that this web site seems to hate, they are not soldiers and never will be. They ain't made of the right stuff, however they all still bought poppy's. You are always going to get the guy who won't get a job because he doesn't want to be part of the capitalist system and the guy who doesn't buy a Poppy because it is pro-war. let them think what they want we will remember the veterans and alway will! The sad acts don't count!
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Hi Guys
I think that the problem is people forget that the soldiers that they see on TV are all dear to someone - a son,brother or father not robotic killing machines.
I dont really agree with the war in Iraq but its happening now and we should support our troops, they only go where they are sent not where they choose. I wear a poppy for my Grandad and his mates and for those still out there doing the job I wanted to do but did not measure up for physically or mentally when I had my chance.
I know,I know, I'm preaching to the converted but thats what always say when people start talking about the "war".
Mitty
I think that the problem is people forget that the soldiers that they see on TV are all dear to someone - a son,brother or father not robotic killing machines.
I dont really agree with the war in Iraq but its happening now and we should support our troops, they only go where they are sent not where they choose. I wear a poppy for my Grandad and his mates and for those still out there doing the job I wanted to do but did not measure up for physically or mentally when I had my chance.
I know,I know, I'm preaching to the converted but thats what always say when people start talking about the "war".
Mitty
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Theres a feeling that its all very well honouring the glorious dead but what are the glorious dead dying for?? Every year we have grand ceremonies with bishops giving all these stirring speeches about peace and justice with the likes of Bliar and Straw standing there with pious looks on their faces. Yet 60 years after D-Day we see the same old bollocks wars being waged for the same old bollocks reasons. As a result cynicism is very widespread. I wore a poppy but it felt fake to be honest. I felt as if I were just going through a ritual rather than honouring war dead.
Ex-URNU-Student,
Now we have all become aware that you dislike Tony Blair and you will get a dig in at every opportunity, but he is the head of our government so why should he not be at the Memorial Service looking solemn as he has had to send our young men to fight and die for our country. Now from what you said on this thread that you feel that fight for freedom and justice is a load of old Bollocks as you put it. So you don't think it is right to fight people like Hitler and that Saddam Hassian is just friendly and miss understood man who are doing nothing but good in world. As far as the poppies go why should you feel like a fraud in wearing one, as the making of them gives work to disabled war veterans and the money raised to help other service personnel, or don't you like giving to charity.
Now we have all become aware that you dislike Tony Blair and you will get a dig in at every opportunity, but he is the head of our government so why should he not be at the Memorial Service looking solemn as he has had to send our young men to fight and die for our country. Now from what you said on this thread that you feel that fight for freedom and justice is a load of old Bollocks as you put it. So you don't think it is right to fight people like Hitler and that Saddam Hassian is just friendly and miss understood man who are doing nothing but good in world. As far as the poppies go why should you feel like a fraud in wearing one, as the making of them gives work to disabled war veterans and the money raised to help other service personnel, or don't you like giving to charity.
