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General discussions on joining & training in The Parachute Regiment.
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following up your thread about the parallel bars. it is true that youhave to stand up, straighten your legs and go to touch your toes. although having to actually touch your toes isnt essential!
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Well once yur at RSC, you will always have yur three choices of what too do, but in the final job interview at the end you will be offered the job of yur first choice if you pass RSC. If one of your choices is the paras, whether it be yur first choice or not, make sure you achieve the para standards, thats 9min 30sec on run, otherwise they MAY question you about that and not allow you to go on in the paras, probably asking you to reatend RSC in 3 months.

Then again, I passed RSC no worries. If my memory served correctly about 20 or more failed and went home before the final interview even arrived (run and medical), but of those that were left, EVERYONE passed, I was very suprised, thought at lease some would fail :-?

As for yur girlfriend, well I left mine last year (cos i thought id be goin in army pretty soon after i finished collage last june) :agrue: ughhhh. Anyway shes stuck with me and were still friends, upto the point where she also wants to join army/raf. Can be hard, but ask yurself, if she wouldnt stick with you, was she really worth having as a gf? Just summet to think about. You know who yur m8s are, cos yeah they stick by you and support you.

As I hear, alof of relationships dont work in a military lifestyle. Not saying they all dont cos alot do, but things are difficult around that area. You should hear some of the lasses moan on about there boyfriends been in military, not good. Persides, im glad in a way that im going in the paras single cos (1) I will have 100% full motivation to joining the paras without any external factor such as a gf to think about and tempt me to think otherwise, and (2) along with many of the other lads, u can flirt with anyone u want on the weekends :wink:

Touching yur toes on the paralell bar is ONLY a rmour ive heard. If anyones seen The Paras (480 platoon) they will have also seen it done when each recruit does the trainasium. Might not have to, dunno to be honest,

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Exactly mate, i need all the supprot i can get and she wasnt giving that to me! I will always care for her, but i want to join the army with nothing holding me back, just like you! i want to live my life to teh max do everything, go everywhere and she didnt want that. Im 17 for christs sake!!!!! SHe was even talkin about gettin engaged at end of year 13!!!

What i mean is at the RSC if out of my three options i dont get into two of them will they offer me the third? So if i dont get in as a para i could still ahve optino of doing something else without having to go to the RSC again in months time!!!

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yeah pretty much. you got yur 3 choices and yur priority is yur first choice, i.e. if u get the nessesary fitness requirements etc, thats the job you will be offered at the end of RSC. If you dont meet the requirements, you can fall back on yur second or third choice if needs be without having to go back to RSC. If you want to change yur choices all together thou that might involve having a couple interviews again along with RSC,

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Ah good.
Do you know what kind of requirements there are for the RMP? I nkow what is required for the paras and I am working for that every other day by running and doing situps, pressups and tricep dips. I have a problem though my chin ups are rubbish, do you know what I can do to enhance that?
What kind of fitness programe did you follow? How did you do at your recruit selection stage?

When I did the RSW for the TA i ran a mile n half in 10.04, which isnt good as can normally manage 9.40!

Next thing, what would you advise about my college situation, should i stay on from year12 and finish my A-levels?? I really want to be in the army though more than anything but people are advising me to stay at school, whats your opinion?

Thanks a lot for all your help so far mate
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I'm a bit slow today. What is the RMP again? Ill probably remember straight after I posted this message and think FK!!!

Right, for your chin ups, dont work on quantity. First, work on quality, even if it means doing only one at a time. You need to get the technique right first before you do anything else. The type you will be doing are the ones starting from hanging from a beam, arms fully extended, palms facing towards u, knuckles away from you. Each reb should be done by lifting yur body right up till your chin is ABOVE or level with the bar, and then lower again. At the end of each rep, make sure your arms are once again FULLY extended, or the PTI's will not count it. Trust me, they wont! Once you got the technique right (best doing it in sets of one or two at a time untill u get it master it), you can then start to work on it, by trying to do as many as you can each and every time you do it. You should be looking at been able to do at least 10 for the parass, HOWEVER the requirement is only 6 at the moment.

MY RSC RESULTS
1.5 Mile: 9min 30sec
Medical: Pass
Simulated Ammo Box Lifts: Pass
Torso Strength: Pass
Basic Military Lesson: 10/10
Team Tasks: Marked as been good (according to my interview officer)

Basically its a peice of piss if you are at a reasonably fitness level. However, my time for the 1.5 mile is usually 8min 30sec, and was upto 9min, cause there were a few hills n that on the course AND we never got to stretch or owt. So you should be aiming to achieve around 8min 30sec IF U CAN before u go, or 9min 30sec as the limit.

As for the fitness programs, I usually stick to running mon, wed, fri and swimming/biking tue and thur, having sat and sun as rest days. Two weeks ago I started a 4 week pre-para course found on the para website. Done it a few times before in the past, its quite good. Im in my 3rd week of it at moment, then im going to start an 8 week pre-p-company program. Then after that ill have only one week left before I join the paras.

My advice for you before RSC is to simple train with 1.5 miles and time yurself. You will find that yur time will gradually increase each time you do it, and before you know it, you will be below 9min 30sec.

Personnally I regret going through my A-Levels, and wish I joined the Paras at the end of GCSE, because you simply dont need them for the paras, and my recruitment officers tried there hardest to get me away from the paras and into a more educated line of the army (but failed cos im commited to the paras no matter what). Wish I went to an AFC thou. My advice to you would be to COMPLETE your A-Levels. If you failed para training or army trainign or got a medical discharge or a discharge or anything like that, or simply come out army whenever you do, what then? You may not need the qualifitcations in the army for the Paras, but you WILL need them on civvy street when you come out of the army. Trust me, no matter how much u dont want to, COMPLETE THEM!!! You will be glad once you have too and think that it was worth if because no matter what happens you'll always have them to fall back on,

Persides, finishing your A-Levels will give you plenty of time to train yourself up, discover more about the Paras and the Army. And as my mother and many other mothers say...

"ENJOY SCHOOL, THEIR THE BEST YEARS OF YA LIFE" :wink:

What retard put that into their heads??????? :roll:

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Royal military police, mate. So once again do you have any idea what kind of requirements they want from the RSC? My mate also passed the ammo box but to me that looks bloody hard but mind over matter as they say!

Thing is though mate, school is full of assholes who backstab eachother and slag eachother off and when you do stand up for yourself or your mates you get roped up in front of the headmistress!! I jsut want out and into the army life that i long for, my parents wont stop me, and although my mates are trying to talk me out of it I really want the army and then aftr that join the civvie police.

Chinups again lol, is it worth buying one of those bars? as I am 6'1 and therefore i always have to bend my legs when using a beam in my room. and plus that beam also feels like its gona collapse lol.

Back to the paras again, I dont why but something is telling me the RMP would be better for me and although I would lvoe to be in the paras and would want the honour of wearing that sexy beret with the even sexier wings on it I can get the wings in the RMP. (thats royal military police by the way mate lol)

At the RSC do they test you on pressups/situps aswell? they did on my selction weekend for the green jackets within the TA.

Thanks again mate.
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I never went to Linchfield but went to RSC Glencourse, Scotland. We never did the ammo box there, but instead carried two full jerry cans over a 150m distance in group formation, without putting it down.

Royal Military Police, should have known that like. I cant say I know the requirements for them as ive never even concidered going into them. I shud imagine there requirement for the 1.5mile will be somewhere around 12min or something. Also I am not sure if you will be required to sit a maths test or not. I didnt have to sit a maths test for the paras thou.

You should maybe try going into one of the online chat sessions with an army officer, and ask someone about it. www.army.mod.uk I been on the chat session a few times in the past. Sometimes there helpfull, sometimes they aint, but worth a try.

Hmmmm, how old are you? If your between 16 and 17yrs 1month, u can apply to go to an Army Foundation Collage and leave yur current skool. That way you will learn yur qualifications, learn loads of skills, and get physically prepared for the army.

Yeah its worth buying a chin up bar if you have a place to put it. However myself, I usually just find the nearest tree brance or when I go for a run down footy pitch I just use the cross bar of the goal post. Nowt better than a lil bit if improvisation.

Well, have you ever concidered joining up with the RMP then maybe after 3 years or so do P-Company and join the Paras. Alot of lads these days get another trade before they join the Paras. Me on the other hand, im an ignorant c@#t so im just going straight in the Paras as I am.

I watched the RSC Linchfield video a few times in the past and they do pressups n stuff like. But at RSC Glencourse they told us that there was no need for us to be tested on pressups, situps or the bleep test, which was good. That was RSC Glencourse thou, cant guarentee what they will or wont do down at RSC Linchfield.

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I think that i may be going to Pirbright, the same place I went to for the TA, thats where a mate of mine went who is currently at the army technical foundation college.

There is definitely a oppurtunity to be in P coy with the RMP and get your wings that way, something that I would love to do! I am going to go down the careers office next week provided i pass my drving test :-? !

I have decided my two options will be RMP, recovery mechanic in REME and I think that my third may have to be something less strenuous in case I mess up on all the tests and have to have a easy job. Or i put down paras like i want to and pray to god I am fit enough and if the bloke offers me the paras then yay!

I wonder how the careers office will react to me not continuing my a-levels, i think il say that I have lost interest in the school life and want a new exciting challenge and being in the TA has shown me that the army can give me that.

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Mate, put down Paras. If you are not fit enough then GET fit enough. I want Para too and 2 weeks ago I did the bft and got 10:20. I have about 6 weeks to improve and im bashing out interval training 5 times a week and WILL do it. Im very confident I will be in the right condition for training and am determined.
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Thing is, I really think it may be better to get my wings thru the military police. That way I can pick up my NVQ's at the same time.

Beasting when you didnt get in as a para were you offered your other choices?

I am fit enough for the paras running wise it is my upper body that lets me down, any advice on that?

Mal please reply to my last post!

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Hi, I haven't done an offical BFT just a training session. To gain entry to the paras you only need to do 7 heaves which are easier than pull ups. Im a big lad and I can do 50 odd pressups but pull ups are a struggle. I don't understand why fitness is putting you off, anyone can make the grade - it just takes hard work. You obviously don't 100% want to be a para so I would recommend against it.
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Hey, sorry long time since reply

I am not really sure what I want to be, I would love to earn those wings for either the army paras or 2sqdn in the RAF Regt, but is it the best option in long run for qualifications?
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I am not really sure what I want to be
Looking at the various posts you have made about advice on the following - RAF Regt, Air Loadmaster, Para, RMP etc etc,, the above is fair comment.

Have you thought of joining the Royal Navy, or perhaps the Foreign Legion???? :roll:
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