I've got to buy what...?

Peds · Post by **Peds** » Mon 31 Mar, 2003 11:45 am

K24 has the right idea, buy all your equipment from him.

The boots are great!

K24io · Post by **K24io** » Mon 31 Mar, 2003 1:00 pm

Money's in the post Peds.

bootneck · Post by **bootneck** » Tue 01 Apr, 2003 4:47 pm

if you get yer old fella to top the car up at total, you can get a multi tool for about a fiver, not quite leatherman, but it`ll do you for training

James82ah · Post by **James82ah** » Thu 03 Apr, 2003 12:52 am

I bought a pair of our current army boots brand new from an Army surplus shop for £40. They're fine, I haven't had any probs with them. I'm using them to run in, to toughen up the feet. I wanted to get myself a bergen, but those are really pricey, around £120, is this too much? Also, advice please. Obviously, since I'm running in a lot of mud etc, I'm cleaning my boots a lot. I can even get them shined up nicely now. The only problem I have is the metal eyelets. On the inside, they are tearing up the tongue of the boot. Not a problem with this pair, but in training I can picture it being a problem. Therefore my question is how to stop regulation army boots from tearing up their own tongue with the metal eyelets? Also, when in, how frequently are you in close proximity to wrens? i rather like the idea of dpm bikinis. My ladyfriend wouldn't go a bundle on that though, she's as adventurous as a small potatoe.

nic k · Post by **nic k** » Thu 03 Apr, 2003 1:16 am

i dont know if their is some special way of stopping the ringlet problem but surley a bit of electrical tape over them would stop that.
If you know any army/air/sea cadets or anyone in the forces they might get you a cheaper bergen i got one for £30 from an ex para when i was in the ATC

bootneck · Post by **bootneck** » Thu 03 Apr, 2003 2:21 am

james, if the eyelets are ripping your boot tongues out, at least they won`t squeak

K24io · Post by **K24io** » Thu 03 Apr, 2003 3:36 pm

I get reasonably well with my boots as well, but I have to add the lords insole and wear two pairs of socks or else I pressure blisters on every load carry. A good few lads get achilles problems with them - the unpadded leather at the backs rubs of fit and inflames the tendon. Pretty soon they can't walk let alone run.

Are they ripping it or just marking them? mine are marked with little indents but it won't go beyond that. Certainly its the least of your worries!

Bergen prices are high because they are in short supply £85 with side pouches is best I've seen for good quality one. Buy grade 2 at your own risk.

Even better, don't bother. Buy a decent civvy rucksack and use it.

£5 multi-tool will do nicely, then when you lose it you don't need to worry much!

bootneck · Post by **bootneck** » Thu 03 Apr, 2003 4:44 pm

you used to be able to get a berghaus bergen that had side pouches that zipped off, zipped together and made a day sack

K24io · Post by **K24io** » Thu 03 Apr, 2003 5:18 pm

Issue one does that now but its a poor daysack. "Rocket pack"

Berghaus Munro is the one you are thinking of, still make updated version and quite popular but its dear and if its just for practice I'd recommend a Nevis 44 or something similar, not enough for weekend in the wild but big enough for decent distribution of weight for yomp practice. Its cheap too!

bootneck wrote:you used to be able to get a berghaus bergen that had side pouches that zipped off, zipped together and made a day sack

bootneck · Post by **bootneck** » Thu 03 Apr, 2003 5:28 pm

well, take yer pick, spoilt for choice eh?

faddius · Post by **faddius** » Thu 03 Apr, 2003 9:17 pm

The Berghaus model to which you are referring is the Cyclops Vulcan model. It is still in existence. The Civvie variant is the Cyclops Atlas. Both built like a brick sh£t houses and both have free lifetime warantees. The side pockets on both can be zipped together to form a 20l (10+10l) daypack.

RRP is usually about 250 Euro. If you want a new model look up ebay.de Some german shop has hundred of Vulcans at around 200 euro.

~James

Yes that is right I am a bag spotter

K24io · Post by **K24io** » Thu 03 Apr, 2003 9:49 pm

Indeed, an inexcusable error on my part.

The Munro is the smaller Daysack.

RRP is usually £150. Our RRP won't be. That is if they dont' take huff as we want to sell at discount. Might stock Karrimor model anyway, its based on more modern technology, the new civvy rucksacks really are leaving bergens behind.

Doesn't that make you a bag sniffer? since we were moving onto Kit sniffers instead of spotters. I won't comment on the DPM underwear admirers. something sniffers but it would be impolite to say.

Bruce McDonald · Post by **Bruce McDonald** » Fri 04 Apr, 2003 9:35 am

Who would have thought it was so cheap!!

faddius · Post by **faddius** » Fri 04 Apr, 2003 12:30 pm

Question of viewpoint?

Is a kit/bag sniffer someone who buys kit or who for some strange reason just knows pointless stuff? (Active)

AND

Is a kit/bag spotter someone who just knows pointless stuff or who buys it? (Passive)

~James

Sven · Post by **Sven** » Fri 04 Apr, 2003 2:05 pm

A kit sniffer is someone who is always "sniffing" out new and quite frankly unnessasary kit.

A spotter is one who knows pointless details about kit.

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