As We have been Made aware of how much time and effort goes into running a web page "by Tony",And the responses He has been recieving over the years,I feel it is time for compromise, The only way to run a succesful business is to delegate the best people to run the department that they are best suited,
dont forget that IF it is going to be the official site it will need to cover
Welfare, Fundraising, recruitment, serving members, official events, social activities. but to name a few,
the point I am trying to get over is IF RMAHQ are going to take the web page on board LET them nominate their Web master let him nominate his team of experts but as for the social side of it such as "find an oppo, Misc discussions,and every thing we have come to enjoy" The Branches need to get to-gether and put foreward a motion that this page be incorperated into the web page and run by the men who can do it best "Tony" his record stands second to none he has proven what he can do,"and do it well" No disrespect to the web master of the site but even he must admit to himself Tony has brought this site to life,Have a look around no other section has as many subscribers as this one,
My message to ALL secretaries is get your branches behind Tony and have your delegates to have this site incorperated into the official web page run by the best man,
I rest My Case
John_D
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Hello John,
When we talk about the RMA and a web site we are looking to a facility to advertise the benefits of the organisation. Recruitment, official events, social activities would be some of the areas which could benefit from the web site, however HQ are already actively involved with Welfare mainly thro’ the Welfare Officer of each branch. Fund raising is an activity, which is left to the Regions and Branches to organise amongst themselves apart from the Lympstone raffle, which is normally run, by a Region or Branch on behalf of HQ. I agree more effort is needed at HQ level in this area and it is currently under discussion thro’ the Strategic Development Plan.
The hard part of setting up any web site is the basic format and the input of data. Once this is done then regular updates should be fairly straightforward.
The problems at branch level is not a lot of the members are confident with new technology and as you can see from “The Once A Marine ……” site only 8 Branches have their details on the site. Many of the RMA membership are elder gentleman and it will take time for the Internet to move into the RMA way of live, however great strides have been made in the past 2 years.
Kind Regards
Brian Easton
When we talk about the RMA and a web site we are looking to a facility to advertise the benefits of the organisation. Recruitment, official events, social activities would be some of the areas which could benefit from the web site, however HQ are already actively involved with Welfare mainly thro’ the Welfare Officer of each branch. Fund raising is an activity, which is left to the Regions and Branches to organise amongst themselves apart from the Lympstone raffle, which is normally run, by a Region or Branch on behalf of HQ. I agree more effort is needed at HQ level in this area and it is currently under discussion thro’ the Strategic Development Plan.
The hard part of setting up any web site is the basic format and the input of data. Once this is done then regular updates should be fairly straightforward.
The problems at branch level is not a lot of the members are confident with new technology and as you can see from “The Once A Marine ……” site only 8 Branches have their details on the site. Many of the RMA membership are elder gentleman and it will take time for the Internet to move into the RMA way of live, however great strides have been made in the past 2 years.
Kind Regards
Brian Easton
Brian, we have had many communications reference an official RMA site – I agree it will take time to get the current RMA membership on to the Internet. The idea though is to open the RMA up to those not currently members and get them to buy into the future RMA.
I think it is daft to count serving members as members of the RMA after all how many do you see at your meetings or social gatherings?
The RMA needs to promote its self as progressive – fund raising would reach a much wider and more charitable group, and give more options, with more funding comes better events: Corps, association, and social. Currently the corps secretariat sells advertising space in the G&L why not on the web?
An area where an expert can offer advice 7x24 on many topics of concern: Pension, War Pension, welfare, etc etc. I know you already do this but many people (families) are not aware nor would they know where to get the information from. Most people nowadays “Ask Jeeves”! All the RMA have to do is look at the e-mail list on the Civvie-Street site and check the dates of when people joined the Corps and see in fact that many are from the 50’s and 60’s all using Internet technology.
I wonder have HQRM or RMAHQ power ranks even taken a look at either the “Royal British Legion” or “Once A Marine” web sites ? and evaluated its value?
I am happy to assist the RMA where I can, but to date no one in an official capacity has asked me anything. Except to remove the information on which branch is where and who the secretaries are which is published in the corps diary on sale to the general public, but considered a security risk to put on the internet. The Royal Marines have always in my opinion embraced change so lets set the pace and move into 2002 leaving the Luddite’s in 2001 !.
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I think it is daft to count serving members as members of the RMA after all how many do you see at your meetings or social gatherings?
The RMA needs to promote its self as progressive – fund raising would reach a much wider and more charitable group, and give more options, with more funding comes better events: Corps, association, and social. Currently the corps secretariat sells advertising space in the G&L why not on the web?
An area where an expert can offer advice 7x24 on many topics of concern: Pension, War Pension, welfare, etc etc. I know you already do this but many people (families) are not aware nor would they know where to get the information from. Most people nowadays “Ask Jeeves”! All the RMA have to do is look at the e-mail list on the Civvie-Street site and check the dates of when people joined the Corps and see in fact that many are from the 50’s and 60’s all using Internet technology.
I wonder have HQRM or RMAHQ power ranks even taken a look at either the “Royal British Legion” or “Once A Marine” web sites ? and evaluated its value?
I am happy to assist the RMA where I can, but to date no one in an official capacity has asked me anything. Except to remove the information on which branch is where and who the secretaries are which is published in the corps diary on sale to the general public, but considered a security risk to put on the internet. The Royal Marines have always in my opinion embraced change so lets set the pace and move into 2002 leaving the Luddite’s in 2001 !.
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Where else can you get a site like this one? It does not matter what your rank is or was, subscribers can air their opinions without malice or contradiction,since the 12Th of this month this topics page alone has had 737 visitos I think that speaks for its self as to the popularity of the site,its the same as you have stated I would put odd s that nobody from the higher echelon has even bothered to look at this site to draw any opinion
Aye John_D
Aye John_D
Hello Tony,
The RMA does need opening up to the Internet and the power of it as a tool to promote etc. I agree we need to encourage members/branches to get involved.
Without the serving Corps. the membership of the RMA would be about 6,000, which is pathetically low when you consider the number of former Royals out there in the world. And some of these are not Corps but ex RN or Army or RAF. Hence the link with the Corps is probably a lifeline for the RMA.
I wholeheartedly agree with you comments re advertising, welfare, fundraising etc and the use of the web site to do the work for the organisation.
Whether the hierarchy ever look at the sites you have mentioned is open to speculation, however the fact they asked you to remove some innocuous information shows someone has.
I’m aware and appreciate your kind offer to give some assistance, but this goes back to a discussion we had sometime ago “the best way to go about it”.
Food for thought.
All the best for the “Christmas Season” to you and all Royals throughout the world.
Brian Easton
The RMA does need opening up to the Internet and the power of it as a tool to promote etc. I agree we need to encourage members/branches to get involved.
Without the serving Corps. the membership of the RMA would be about 6,000, which is pathetically low when you consider the number of former Royals out there in the world. And some of these are not Corps but ex RN or Army or RAF. Hence the link with the Corps is probably a lifeline for the RMA.
I wholeheartedly agree with you comments re advertising, welfare, fundraising etc and the use of the web site to do the work for the organisation.
Whether the hierarchy ever look at the sites you have mentioned is open to speculation, however the fact they asked you to remove some innocuous information shows someone has.
I’m aware and appreciate your kind offer to give some assistance, but this goes back to a discussion we had sometime ago “the best way to go about it”.
Food for thought.
All the best for the “Christmas Season” to you and all Royals throughout the world.
Brian Easton
Interesting that the Royal Navy Association have a Web Presence...
http://www.royal-naval-association.co.uk/
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http://www.royal-naval-association.co.uk/
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As with many organisations I have dealt with for web sites. The RMA seem to be looking to build a site they can control fully and with a site that presents a return on investment.
This is not a course that should be adopted in most cases but its what most think can be achieved. The thought of money coming from thin air is one that has had many I have dealt with spell bound, usually due to bad information due to mis-representation by web site companies in fact.
The RMA would be wise to take time to look at any offer such as the one made by Tony as it is always best to have someone with inside knowledge to build a site, or at least to appoint someone like Tony to help manage and consult with.
This could be an important investment for the Corp as well so a tie with the Corp should be well developed along with an investment into any site venture.
This is not a course that should be adopted in most cases but its what most think can be achieved. The thought of money coming from thin air is one that has had many I have dealt with spell bound, usually due to bad information due to mis-representation by web site companies in fact.
The RMA would be wise to take time to look at any offer such as the one made by Tony as it is always best to have someone with inside knowledge to build a site, or at least to appoint someone like Tony to help manage and consult with.
This could be an important investment for the Corp as well so a tie with the Corp should be well developed along with an investment into any site venture.
The investment the RMA need to make is one of a wider perspective - communications and access. Why not have an Internet Branch or a Cyber Branch, or even a Vertual Branch, of course you don't get a real drink from a real bar but you do get to talk...
So I'm off to the bar for a wet anyone want one whilst I'm there?
So I'm off to the bar for a wet anyone want one whilst I'm there?
Yours Aye
Tony L
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Very true this is what it was and is about and where we need to go back to.
I feel that there is within the ranks of the retired a large pool of people who would be willing and able to take on the tasks required to establish a firm foothold for the RMA on the path of the WWW.
I for one would gladly help to set up a site and provide a lot of the design work totaly free of charge for such a worthy cause. This is something close to the hearts of all we have seen on here and is not going to just go away. The RMA need to be moving forward or it will unfortunatly stand still.
I have been involved with Sales and Maketing for over twenty years and have owned a web company for five, I can see ways which would benefit the RMA and would provide a revenue stream which would help the RMA to promote throughout the members of this very special family.
It is now that this needs to be done and in my eyes should have been done two years ago. This is something special the Yanks have embrased it the right way now we need to once again follow, even though it was us Brits who started the Internet.
I feel that there is within the ranks of the retired a large pool of people who would be willing and able to take on the tasks required to establish a firm foothold for the RMA on the path of the WWW.
I for one would gladly help to set up a site and provide a lot of the design work totaly free of charge for such a worthy cause. This is something close to the hearts of all we have seen on here and is not going to just go away. The RMA need to be moving forward or it will unfortunatly stand still.
I have been involved with Sales and Maketing for over twenty years and have owned a web company for five, I can see ways which would benefit the RMA and would provide a revenue stream which would help the RMA to promote throughout the members of this very special family.
It is now that this needs to be done and in my eyes should have been done two years ago. This is something special the Yanks have embrased it the right way now we need to once again follow, even though it was us Brits who started the Internet.
