Just browsing russiatoday, and all they ever advertise is their latest military achievements such as the latest ICBM test, or super miisile systems.
How challenging are these latest weapons to US/Nato forces?
Have Russia caught up on Nato in terms of superiority of weapons?
One argument says they have judging by the reluctance of Nato/US to push Russia further on the missile shield etc. On the other hand, how risky was it to send the most expensive and modern carrier in to the Black Sea region, well within striking distance of Russian missiles and land based aircraft?
Did this show that Nato was confident about overcoming Russian military power? It seemed a huge gamble to me.
Any thoughts guys?
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New Russian Military Supremecy?
Now I'm no fan of politics, so some may find my opinion completely uninformed. However, from a strategic perspective, why would Russia seek to sink a US carrier? Sure it would prove they have the ability to do it, and being the latest supercarrier it's a juicy target, but like any other major action directly against the US you're asking to start WW3, which I tend to think Russia is no keener on than any of the rest of us. They may push their luck in more local territories, but I don't think you'll see any direct action against the United States in the near future.
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I agree with you. And what puzzles me is why the US spends more on weapons research than any other country spends on actually buying weaponry? Including Russia and China. What [or who] are they afraid of?
The latest 'missile' shield they want to install in Poland and Eastern European countries is supposed to be a precaution against potential missile attacks from Iran and North Korea.
Wouldn't N Korea send any missiles over the Pacific rather than the European Landmass??
And Iran are so far away from developing a ICBM capability the whole thing seems a joke.
Do WMDs in Iraq strike a chord?
I agree with you. And what puzzles me is why the US spends more on weapons research than any other country spends on actually buying weaponry? Including Russia and China. What [or who] are they afraid of?
The latest 'missile' shield they want to install in Poland and Eastern European countries is supposed to be a precaution against potential missile attacks from Iran and North Korea.
Wouldn't N Korea send any missiles over the Pacific rather than the European Landmass??
And Iran are so far away from developing a ICBM capability the whole thing seems a joke.
Do WMDs in Iraq strike a chord?
Russia is trying to make a point that they can still stand up with biggest players in world. Now to this they will need far more than they have now and would need to develop and deploy a large blue water fleet. This would need to have the aircraft carriers so that they can project power over even greater distances. Both China and India are going this way, but Russia is still on the side lines huffing and puffing trying to make them selfs look big
THe Russians want to come back? Good, bring those commies on. Let them smell American powder and feel American steel.
Would have been funny if they could stay conventional and we could have had a go at them in Georgia. Killing Ivan was chic when I was a kid.
Would have been funny if they could stay conventional and we could have had a go at them in Georgia. Killing Ivan was chic when I was a kid.
Let them call me a rebel and I welcome it, I feel no concern from it; but I should suffer the misery of demons were I to make a whore of my soul. (Thomas Paine)
If you fire in an emotional angry state Tab I feel sorry for you.
Also the Russians are your old Allies, Churchill and Stalin were chummy. So was FDR, but FDR was about an American icon as Amy Whinehouse is a UK icon.
The Russians are a threat to Anglo-Saxon ideals, values and freedom and always will be, simply because they are socialists. Tell me Tab, my father was at Hamburger Hill in 69. He saw more combat than most of your crew here put together. Yet he is to this day an ardent anti-communist, believes the Russians since the collapse were still a future problem and communists no matter what their sympathetic Associated Press says.
My old man used to get a gleem in his eye talking about how in the future we'd probably fight the Soviet Union. I'd like to see you make that comment to his face about shots fired in anger. He isn't crying about how many buddies he lost in VN. He's proud to have done his duty and glad to have fought the communists. I posted pictures here in the past from his VN adventures. I'd rather deal with Islamic Extremists fighting against globalization than tolerate Russians in South America. Islamists are easy to deal with, stop building strip joints and McDonald's in their countries they stop attacking ours. Russians? They are clever and deceptive. They are looking for a fight.
Right now they are in our Hemisphere playing games with Venezuela. They want another Cold War. Before you point to Georgia let me remind you, we are trying to right the wrongs of Yalta and the Warsaw sellout.
We sold out Eastern Europe to murderers along with Poland your country pledged to protect with the last drop of English blood, only to sacrifice them all to Stalin and Russian death squads in exchange for an Eastern invasion of Germany which would have happened anyway.
I'm not an ignorant man Tab, nor am I scared when the alternative is extinction. We Americans are a crazy "lot". We aren't keen on dying for money, land or national pride. But we'll fight like lions over liberty and take major risks for the same.
This nation was getting looted the last 8 years. We are at a point where Obama has no choice but to be a good leader or step aside. American's don't like to lose.
When I read the messages here, I do not see the same kind of men as Sir Francis Drake, just the spoiled children of rich old men and a government that makes every effort to provide for every whim.
We'll see how the future goes, but trust me, in this country under the thin verneer of our politically correct politicians is the spirit of 1775 and if the Russians want a global Lexington and Concord then so be it.
I'll be in formation and so will my sons as soon as they can bear arms.
We should have destroyed Bolshevism in 1918.
You a Korean War Vet Tab? VN?
Or were you a peace keeping force? I've been a peace keeper, not much to brag about I'll admit.
Also the Russians are your old Allies, Churchill and Stalin were chummy. So was FDR, but FDR was about an American icon as Amy Whinehouse is a UK icon.
The Russians are a threat to Anglo-Saxon ideals, values and freedom and always will be, simply because they are socialists. Tell me Tab, my father was at Hamburger Hill in 69. He saw more combat than most of your crew here put together. Yet he is to this day an ardent anti-communist, believes the Russians since the collapse were still a future problem and communists no matter what their sympathetic Associated Press says.
My old man used to get a gleem in his eye talking about how in the future we'd probably fight the Soviet Union. I'd like to see you make that comment to his face about shots fired in anger. He isn't crying about how many buddies he lost in VN. He's proud to have done his duty and glad to have fought the communists. I posted pictures here in the past from his VN adventures. I'd rather deal with Islamic Extremists fighting against globalization than tolerate Russians in South America. Islamists are easy to deal with, stop building strip joints and McDonald's in their countries they stop attacking ours. Russians? They are clever and deceptive. They are looking for a fight.
Right now they are in our Hemisphere playing games with Venezuela. They want another Cold War. Before you point to Georgia let me remind you, we are trying to right the wrongs of Yalta and the Warsaw sellout.
We sold out Eastern Europe to murderers along with Poland your country pledged to protect with the last drop of English blood, only to sacrifice them all to Stalin and Russian death squads in exchange for an Eastern invasion of Germany which would have happened anyway.
I'm not an ignorant man Tab, nor am I scared when the alternative is extinction. We Americans are a crazy "lot". We aren't keen on dying for money, land or national pride. But we'll fight like lions over liberty and take major risks for the same.
This nation was getting looted the last 8 years. We are at a point where Obama has no choice but to be a good leader or step aside. American's don't like to lose.
When I read the messages here, I do not see the same kind of men as Sir Francis Drake, just the spoiled children of rich old men and a government that makes every effort to provide for every whim.
We'll see how the future goes, but trust me, in this country under the thin verneer of our politically correct politicians is the spirit of 1775 and if the Russians want a global Lexington and Concord then so be it.
I'll be in formation and so will my sons as soon as they can bear arms.
We should have destroyed Bolshevism in 1918.
You a Korean War Vet Tab? VN?
Or were you a peace keeping force? I've been a peace keeper, not much to brag about I'll admit.
Let them call me a rebel and I welcome it, I feel no concern from it; but I should suffer the misery of demons were I to make a whore of my soul. (Thomas Paine)
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A military annalist in UK stated recently, “The Soviet Navy have the ability to return to its former glory, or simply vanishing into non existence.”
I remember clearly when Soviet Bear aircraft would attempt to probe British airspace, looking for weaknesses, timing intercepts by Royal Air Force Lightnings. It now seems the Russians are up to their old tricks again, this time intercepted by Typhoons. I really don't know what the Russians are trying to prove. I also remember that during a major NATO exercise in the Med in 1970, a Soviet ship was rammed by the Royal Navy. I was in Malta at the time, a radio/op mate came into the barracks highly excited about the ramming. For the life of me I cannot remember the name of the ship involved.
I remember clearly when Soviet Bear aircraft would attempt to probe British airspace, looking for weaknesses, timing intercepts by Royal Air Force Lightnings. It now seems the Russians are up to their old tricks again, this time intercepted by Typhoons. I really don't know what the Russians are trying to prove. I also remember that during a major NATO exercise in the Med in 1970, a Soviet ship was rammed by the Royal Navy. I was in Malta at the time, a radio/op mate came into the barracks highly excited about the ramming. For the life of me I cannot remember the name of the ship involved.
Whitey......I am probably the least emotional person that you are ever likely to meet. Being British I was not in Vietnam but some of my American relatives where. You might be surprised to know that America was not the only ones who have taken up arms against the Russians and their influence in world. May I ask you just how many Americans died fighting Communism in Greece, Radfan, Malaya, Oman and Dhofar to name but a few. Now providing Russia does not invade another country then they can posture away all they like and it is not worth going to war over. Now Russia could see America as a threat as they keep invading other people countries. Now insurgency Both Russia and America are involved in trying to put their own puppet governments in place all over the world and no doubt Russia feels what is good for America is also good for them.
Now what I said in my last post is that yours appeared to have written by a person that had never hear a shot fired in Anger, When you have actual fought for ones country can you understand what a waste it can all be. Or shall we go down the road of shouting that my dad is bigger than your dad
Now what I said in my last post is that yours appeared to have written by a person that had never hear a shot fired in Anger, When you have actual fought for ones country can you understand what a waste it can all be. Or shall we go down the road of shouting that my dad is bigger than your dad
BritBritinAfrica wrote: I really don't know what the Russians are trying to prove. I also remember that during a major NATO exercise in the Med in 1970, a Soviet ship was rammed by the Royal Navy. I was in Malta at the time, a radio/op mate came into the barracks highly excited about the ramming. For the life of me I cannot remember the name of the ship involved.
I suspect the Putin's posturing is as much for domestic consumption as anything else.
Malta, 1970. Ah, happy days when our eldest daughter was born there - so there was more excitement going on than just Naval incidents!
Pennell, Glasspool and Seaman staggering across the valley from Mdina to Mtarfa asking to see the mother and new baby. Being rather dishevelled by the time they arrived the Ward Sister declined entry to them.
I've stayed out of this for a few days hoping that you, Whitey, would crawl back into your hole as you promised. I despise what you are and what you stand for . Pretty much, probably, as you despise me and what I stand for.
You are still a member by virtue of the fact you have been here a long time. So what? f
A lady was binned a while ago for spouting such stuff as you do.
Time we moved on.
You are still a member by virtue of the fact you have been here a long time. So what? f
A lady was binned a while ago for spouting such stuff as you do.
Time we moved on.
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I was on detachment fom RAF Wattisham to RAF Luqa, were were billeted at Hal Far. lol I remember the Gut all too well, I never did have a beer in each bar, I fell over about half way down lolSisyphus wrote:BritBritinAfrica wrote: I really don't know what the Russians are trying to prove. I also remember that during a major NATO exercise in the Med in 1970, a Soviet ship was rammed by the Royal Navy. I was in Malta at the time, a radio/op mate came into the barracks highly excited about the ramming. For the life of me I cannot remember the name of the ship involved.
I suspect the Putin's posturing is as much for domestic consumption as anything else.
Malta, 1970. Ah, happy days when our eldest daughter was born there - so there was more excitement going on than just Naval incidents!
Pennell, Glasspool and Seaman staggering across the valley from Mdina to Mtarfa asking to see the mother and new baby. Being rather dishevelled by the time they arrived the Ward Sister declined entry to them.
Did you know Ernie Whittaker? He was in air traffic control, I think.
He and I were in 007 bar in the gut when this young lady [the spitting image of Claudia Cardinale - and with the same fantastic husky voice] sat at our table, lifted her T shirt to display the most amazing pair you've ever seen and asked, 'Would you like to play with my boobies'.
OF COURSE WE WOULD!! But we, naturally, declined!
At least, that's the official story. And if you do know him and he tells you anything different, he's lying!
He and I were in 007 bar in the gut when this young lady [the spitting image of Claudia Cardinale - and with the same fantastic husky voice] sat at our table, lifted her T shirt to display the most amazing pair you've ever seen and asked, 'Would you like to play with my boobies'.
OF COURSE WE WOULD!! But we, naturally, declined!
At least, that's the official story. And if you do know him and he tells you anything different, he's lying!
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I take it that message was for me?Sisyphus wrote:Did you know Ernie Whittaker? He was in air traffic control, I think.
He and I were in 007 bar in the gut when this young lady [the spitting image of Claudia Cardinale - and with the same fantastic husky voice] sat at our table, lifted her T shirt to display the most amazing pair you've ever seen and asked, 'Would you like to play with my boobies'.
OF COURSE WE WOULD!! But we, naturally, declined!
At least, that's the official story. And if you do know him and he tells you anything different, he's lying!
Tiger Beer in Singapore eroded my brain cells, and the beer in Malta eroded them even more. Most of the time I cant remember what I had for breakfast lol.
I cannot remember names, if I saw a picture of the bloke I might.
A fella who I was on station with in Singapore email me earllier this year , for the life of me I couldnt remember his name. After a lot of emails back and forth with various questions, it turns out he was one of my best mates lol.
A few years ago, a fella approach me in South Wales, whom said he knew me. I couldnt remember him at all. It turns out we did our basic training at RAF Hemswell together and were in the same room. To this day I dont know who the hell he was.
