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Viet Nam, The Battle of Long Tan 40th Anniversary

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Viet Nam, The Battle of Long Tan 40th Anniversary

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Forty years ago 18th August, 1966, Delta Coy, 6th Royal Australian Regiment were engaged in a battle with at least fifteen hundred Viet Cong.
Conventional military wisdom dictates odds of three to one in favour as being a "good thing"
Fifteen to one against is probably a "bad thing" then. :-?
That`s what they were up against.
Clock this site, there`s lots of info there

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~marshalle/lt/lt.htm

I copy this intro from one of the books that was used to make the movie of the battle which premieres on Fox Wednesday night,
It is often said that truth is stranger than fiction, and this seems to be the case at Long Tan. Any fictional presentation of 100 inexperienced young soldiers fighting at least ten and probably fifteen or twenty times their own number, in a rubber plantation providing little cover, in a blinding rainstorm; then being relieved by a force arriving just as the enemy is massing for the final unstoppable charge--any such scenario would be ridiculed as the worst type of Hollywood glorification of war.
Yet this is what did happen on that August afternoon


Here`s the Coy Cdr, Harry Smith, his book was the first I read about the action after hearing about it from a couple of Viet Vets.
All Gave Some, Some Gave All
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Major Harry A Smith, Officer Commanding
D Company, 6RAR, awarded the Military Cross.

This geezer was a South Sea Islander in the OZ Army, very prominent in Vet affairs or any thing to do with the Nam. Comes over as a great guy, like most Islanders. Diamond Geezer
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Corporal Tom 'Buddy' Lea, D Company,
6RAR, after the battle.

This lad had been in and was discharged, he re-enlisted in order to go back and "do the righty" Bob Buick strives ceaselessly, to see that the record of achievement set by the Diggs, not just at Long Tan, but in all of their involvement in Viet Nam, is not sullied. We have the usual left wing w4nkers who re-write history to denegrate what the lads did.
More power to him I say
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Sergeant Robert Buick, 6RAR, is awarded the Military
Medal for his bravery in the Battle of Long Tan.

Here`s Buick`s Viet Nam page, if you`re curious, have a look :wink:
http://www.bobbuick.com/viet_nam/index.htm

As a direct result of Long Tan, the VC never directly engaged the RAR again. They thinned out of Nui Dat and the Aussie` TAOR.
The Australian Army were never defeated in Viet Nam, largely because of the way they performed there.
They used British methods learned in Malaya and Borneo, they knew their enemy and fought him on their own terms.

We meet Viet Vets at a couple of gigs each year, ANZAC Day for e.g., some farking good blokes I can tell you :roll:
Eventually, this film will turn up on the History Channel up your end.
Do not miss it :wink:
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Just finished watching a doco on the battle with lots of the guys doing a Band of Brothers stylee re-enactment cut with live footage and phots. Bloody good too. The three and a half hour battle had reached the stage where one more VC human wave would not be repulsed and the Digs would be over-run. They called the guns in on a line fifty metres to their front and put up a wall of steel which held them off long enough for the APCs to come to the rescue and scream through the position blazing away with .50s and .30s The wounded were casevaced out of the rubber plantation and the Digs withdrew to a position of relative safety. As their re-inforcements arrived the following morning the Coy Cdr refused to let them go in to clear the position and recover 6 RAR`s dead,"Those are our mates up there, it`s our job " he said, as the survivors fanned out into arrowhead with a couple of APCs on the flanks.
What greeted them was a scene of utter carnage on a WWI scale. Hundreds of dead NVA and VC everywhere, mostly in pieces. When they recovered all the dead Aussies, a voice called out "You Buggers took yer farkin time!" "Custard" Melville had been found alive and this lifted the spirits of the young Diggers. Then when it seemed no one else had survived they found another lad, drowning in his blood with a deep sucking chest wound. Both guys are alive today and were very sardonic about being left out there all night. 8)
D Coy, 6 RAR were awarded a Presidential Unit Citation and Elmer`s Gen Westmoreland said when he visited the scene that he`d never seen anything like it.

If this documentary makes it up your end, don`t miss it. The film being proposed will be a huge affair and will go on world wide release.

Here`s to the Diggers who fought and died at Long Tan, all gave some, some gave all.

Lest We Forget
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God Bless 'Em all !!!!

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Never heard of this before :o
I think that i would have shit myself to death...

A very good read, thank you for that HH..

Do you know how many aussies were deployed during that war and how many died?
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I`m afraid I don`t, Holger but it won`t be difficult for you to find out. Search for Long Tan Association.
What is surprising, is the number of former British Servicemen who fought there with the OZ Army or Kiwi Forces. In our Association we have two lads who did. One, former SB, served with Kiwi SAS. I don`t think they did much on their own because of their size and they mainly were attached to either Delta or SEAL units. I don`t know everything though 8) The other lad stayed in the RAR after Viet Nam and he marches with his Digger mates on ANZAC Day and then sprints back to march with us, donning his Green Lid as he runs. 8) Many guys from across the Services were drafted or volunteered and I`m hearing about more every week. Even on here, there is a member who`se dad served there.
Their efforts in that war should never be underestimated, and that goes equally for the Americans. One long hard struggle which for many, continues today.
Someone else who served in "the Nam" (as Gored calls it) was the Army of The Republic of Viet Nam! They look the bollocks when their small contingent marches on ANZAC Day, resplendant in their tiger stripe cams, bright yellow crevat and Elvis sunnies! 8) 8)

Here`s to them all, :drinking:
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Thanks..

Most i know about the war in Vietnam is from films and documentatries. Maybe i should start reading some books.. :wink:
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If you want an interesting book about the Vietnam War and how our veterans have been hurt by Hollywood, wannabees, liars and the like, get >


http://www.stolenvalor.com/

"Stolen Valor
How the Vietnam Generation Was Robbed of Its Heroes and Its History"
B.G. Burkett and Glenna Whitley

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Holger Danske wrote:Never heard of this before :o
I think that i would have shit myself to death...

A very good read, thank you for that HH..

Do you know how many aussies were deployed during that war and how many died?
:drinking: :-?
Approx 50,000 served in South Viet Nam from 1962 to 1972 and approx 520 were dead by the withdrawal.
For the complete figures and most other info about Aussies at war go to www.awm.gov.au
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