Muzzle up or down?

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Holger Danske............It seems that you are talking to your self on here

[Holger Danske]

Yes.
Kind of sad, ain't it...

[Sarastro]

Muzzle up for a multi-hour long patrol? You aren't going to be hitting much if you do have to fire, your arms are going to be knackered.

Rifle held at waist height pointing roughly in the direction you are facing, so when you turn your body it is pointing in the direction you are. That way, if contacted, you can return fire immediately. Not an SOP as far as I'm aware, but just what I've been taught; other regiments might do things in a manner befitting headwear

Also, never cradled like you see some mongs doing with hands away from the trigger. I don't see so much problem with holding it muzzle down against your body 'sniper' style like you see lots of US soldiers doing, but a) you are more likely to take your foot off if you ND, and b) will take longer to get into firing position unless you immediately go to one knee - and that isn't the contact procedure in the British Army, though I've seen some US troops doing it.

Personal preference; unslung whenever possible, just because the things get in the way.

Of course, this is just from training, not honed by any actual battle experience...

[Holger Danske]

Muzzle down, you never block the line of sight with the rifle as you do with the muzzle up.

Muzzle down...

[Sarastro]

Er, that's assuming you're holding the rifle up in standing firing position. You really patrol like that?

[Holger Danske]

Er, that's assuming you're holding the rifle up in standing firing position. You really patrol like that?

No no...
I'm danish, not norwegian...

And they do patrol with the muzzle up (not in fire position).!!

Heine must sleep now, but i'll be back tomorrow, with some info on how to handle your rifle on a foot-patrol-danish style...

g'night...

[Shoulderholster]

I prefer to keep my weapon in the "Alert" position,and that way never get any complaints from the wife!.

SH

[flighty]

Good man, Shoulders.

Have a word with l'Artiste, will you?

Jayney xx

[Shrek The Royal]

When i am with the ladies (stand fast Jester, ratings) mine is always in the alert position.

When on Ops or just patrolling in general its always down, you develop tunnel vision if its constantly up in your shoulder and you will start to hang out both arms and vision (you have to concentrate to hard). SF seem to like this, there was a bloke on the juniours who was SF who led a patrol like this through out the whole patrol the weapon was up in his shoulder. Looks gucci however i dont think its needed.

[militaryman]

You need to see what's above the muzzle in order to bring it to the aim.

If the muzzle is high it might be covering a threat so you can't see it.