Questions on applying for selection

Mikey101 · Post by **Mikey101** » Sun 22 Jul, 2007 8:41 pm

Hello, I have a genuine interest in applying for 23 selection & have a few questions for anybody in the know.

1) On the UKSF-R website it says that you need excellent eyesight. I am short sighted and wear glasses, it wouldn't be a problem for joining the Royal Marines, Paras etc. Would it be a problem? Is it worth applying?

2) How fit do you have to be to start selection? Run times, gym test scores etc.

Theres lots of information on standards for joining the Royal Marines & Paras but nothing really for the SAS. I don't want to know about selection itself but the realistic standard of fitness required to apply.
If there was information like this it would discourage unfit applicants from wasting peoples time.
It would also encourage people to apply who were fit enough but didn't know the levels required.
I can understand why they don't give information about training, SOPs, unit members etc. But I can't see why there isn't more information especially on the TA regiments as it would greatly help recruitment.

tom163 · Post by **tom163** » Sun 22 Jul, 2007 10:19 pm

I found this site for you mate (im not sure if it is legal or not

but anyway)

http://www.stuff.themutual.net/taselect.htm

I was going to take the route to 21 (R) but decided to go another way first so I did alot of research and talking to people who have been there and do it ALL. The fitness levels required are some of the highest because you have to do the same selection as 22 regiment, I dont no if there is any stated requirements for attempting selection but im sure you would have to run 10 miles in under 1 hour easy and your eye sight could affect your chances but you get a medical first to see if your good to go.

jabcrosshook · Post by **jabcrosshook** » Sun 22 Jul, 2007 10:41 pm

I got this from an unamed source *cough cough email cough cough*

The eyesight requirement is 6/6 for both eyes. Selection candidates who require glasses or lenses to achieve this must have a visual acuity of no lower than 6/12 in both eyes unaided (ie. without glasses or lenses).

King_duck · Post by **King_duck** » Mon 23 Jul, 2007 1:27 pm

Easily answered. Ring and ask about the eye sight requirements. No strings attached. Tom163 - your info is duff.

Mikey101 - Again ring and ask - they wont bite. Unless you are ex-reg (recent) or have passed CIC you will go and do TA inf stuff first anyway and they will get you fit!

tom163 · Post by **tom163** » Mon 23 Jul, 2007 3:21 pm

It aint my info mate. I didnt make that site did I.

jezb · Post by **jezb** » Mon 23 Jul, 2007 6:01 pm

As already said, just ask them. Before deciding to join the marines I thought about some TA stuff, so I contacted uksf-r, and they sent me some info on fitness and eye/medical requirements.

Theres too much bullsh*t in the sf section here so dont take the advice to be 100% accurate, unless you know it is from a sound source, so just contact them directly.

Mikey101 · Post by **Mikey101** » Mon 23 Jul, 2007 10:46 pm

Thanks, I will give them a call.

I just didn't want to waste my or their time by calling if I wasn't anywhere near the standard required. I guess I don't want to make a fool of myself thats all. I just thought they would have a pre-selection like the Royal Marines PRMC before training.

From my experience most people over estimate their level of fitness (usually because its never really been tested) & under estimate how hard something is (because they have not done it).

To be honest I don't know how fit or unfit I really am. I couldn't run 10 miles in an hour so I guess I'm not that fit!

ADDiction · Post by **ADDiction** » Mon 23 Jul, 2007 11:08 pm

Tom163, think before you open your mouth.

I dont no if there is any stated requirements for attempting selection but im sure you would have to run 10 miles in under 1 hour easy

Oh, you're sure are you, well I guess that's OK then.

What exactly makes you so sure?

Theres too much bullsh*t in the sf section here so dont take the advice to be 100% accurate, unless you know it is from a sound source, so just contact them directly.

That just about sums it up jezb.

Unless you have been there and cracked it, you are more than likely spouting drivel and dreaming up your own "facts".

jabcrosshook · Post by **jabcrosshook** » Mon 23 Jul, 2007 11:19 pm

It's a tad annoying how these threads turn from help/advice to everyone slagging each other off, give it a rest

If you don't know something from experience or a relevant source(ie. the SF(R)) then don't bother posting it.

SNiDE · Post by **SNiDE** » Mon 23 Jul, 2007 11:19 pm

ADDiction wrote:Tom163, think before you open your mouth.

I dont no if there is any stated requirements for attempting selection but im sure you would have to run 10 miles in under 1 hour easy
Oh, you're sure are you, well I guess that's OK then.

What exactly makes you so sure?

Theres too much bullsh*t in the sf section here so dont take the advice to be 100% accurate, unless you know it is from a sound source, so just contact them directly.
That just about sums it up jezb.

Unless you have been there and cracked it, you are more than likely spouting drivel and dreaming up your own "facts".

quoted for truth

Mikey101 · Post by **Mikey101** » Fri 27 Jul, 2007 7:12 pm

Its been posted on the forum that if you apply for 21 or 23 with no previous military experience that you have to complete CIC before attempting selection.

Does this mean that you have to join your local TA Infantry regiment first?

Or

Do you do CIC with 4 PARA?

Does 21 or 23 arrange this or do you have to join another unit, pass CIC and then apply for selection?

Thanks

adj125 · Post by **adj125** » Fri 27 Jul, 2007 8:07 pm

If you join 23 they will send you to 4 para to do CIC
If you join 21 you will not have to do CIC

Alfa · Post by **Alfa** » Fri 27 Jul, 2007 9:30 pm

adj125 wrote:If you join 23 they will send you to 4 para to do CIC
If you join 21 you will not have to do CIC

I was just wondering if you knew why there was a distinction between 21 and 23? I'd always assumed they both did the same job but if what you say is correct then there must be some difference between them?

Mikey101 · Post by **Mikey101** » Fri 27 Jul, 2007 9:32 pm

Thanks, I was planning on applying for 23 as I live in Birmingham.

No 4 PARA in the Midlands I don't think, so I guess I'd have to travel.

Sarastro · Post by **Sarastro** » Sat 28 Jul, 2007 10:55 am

Tom163 wrote:http://www.stuff.themutual.net/taselect.htm

Hmmm. My guess is whoever wrote that site is walting it something hard. The DO NOT JOIN UNLESS YOU CAN RUN 10 MILES IN UNDER AN HOUR part particularly makes me think bullshit. Sub-6 minute miles for 10 miles? SAS recruiting only marathon runners are they? I also don't see any SAS types giving out / allowing a serving reg member's name & rank to be printed on a public website...

Anyway, true or not, it's out of date. 21/23 now send potential recruits to 4 PARA first to get basic training, pass CiC and weed out the mongs.

EDIT: I thought 21 were joining 23 in sending recruits to 4 PARA as of this cadre. I may be wrong. 23 certainly go to 4 PARA though.

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