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Ok latly i have been getting bad cramps in my leg at the gastrocnemius. But the pain after wards stays in my leg for a few days. How are cramps caused, how can i prevent them?
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They are caused by not going to see a doctor, you can make them worse by continuing to not see a doctor, and you can prevent them by...tada...going to see a doctor!

At a guess, that is pretty much what every other post below this will say. Good advice if you ask me!
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See a doctor!!




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Its his calve muscle if your scratching your head)

without a history and examining you...and no I dont have a webcam, cramps are caused by a few reasons or combinations.

Do you smoke?

Electrolyte inbalance

Sweating like a para at a spelling test when you do phys and not enough electolytes/Salt

could be a strain not a cramp, or a tear of muscle or a muscle sheath problem like shin splints.

Boots could be too tight.

Do you warm up cool down

circulation problem

lactic acid removal problem

see a doctor (wont cause cramp but could solve it)
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Doc wrote:Its his calve muscle if your scratching your head)

without a history and examining you...and no I dont have a webcam, cramps are caused by a few reasons or combinations.

Do you smoke?

Electrolyte inbalance

Sweating like a para at a spelling test when you do phys and not enough electolytes/Salt

could be a strain not a cramp, or a tear of muscle or a muscle sheath problem like shin splints.

Boots could be too tight.

Do you warm up cool down

circulation problem

lactic acid removal problem

see a doctor (wont cause cramp but could solve it)
Nop i dont smoke and i dont have any of them problems.

- "Do you warm up cool down" No not really, but i can be sitting on a chair and get this cramp though. I only get it on my left calv.
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so you dont know if you have a circulation problem, you dont know if you have a muscle or sheath tear, and you dont know if you have an electrolyte balance???

ever thought about a career in medicine cos it takes blood tests to diagnose most of them!
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Post by Matrix »

What is a electrolyte balance? Can you explain what you by "if you have a muscle or sheath tear" please.
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In laymans terms

Your body is full of stuff, all sorts, most of it fluid based. Blood sweat snot lymph etc etc if its all in order your in order, if it isnt you aint either.

Muscle tear...as it says on the tin, you could have a small tear in one of your muscles from overtraining. Every muscle is covered in a sheath and this could either have a tear or isnt expanding when your muscles are when your exercising.

Muscle pain from phys is really microsopic tears and build up of lactic acid in the muscles, if the tears arent repairing themselves or the lactic acid isnt draining you have snags

if the arteries or veins in your legs arent working properly then as your legs are at the bottom of your good self then you have problems

Sometimes calve pain indicates coronary or arterial disease of some kind

the list is endless

SEE A DOCTOR

or you may die from a stroke or a heart attack in worse case scenario!

Or it could be you have strained the muscle!

SEE A DOCTOR!!!!!!! :evil:

Im sure some of you just post things like this to prove your a phys monster!
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GO AND SEE A DOCTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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OH MY GOD IM GOING TO DIE :( :( :( :(
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Hold me back quickly, SOMEONE HOLD ME BACK!!!! NOW!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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OH MY GOD IM GOING TO DIE
We can but hope..............
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Thanks for the help doc man. But i think im going to get it checked out and i thinks its this :

Doc wrote:
Muscle tear...as it says on the tin, you could have a small tear in one of your muscles from overtraining. Every muscle is covered in a sheath and this could either have a tear or isnt expanding when your muscles are when your exercising.

Muscle pain from phys is really microsopic tears and build up of lactic acid in the muscles, if the tears are repairing themsleves or the lactic acid isnt draining you have snags

Or it could be you have strained the muscle!

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I wasnt trying to diagnose you, like everyone else I said see a Doctor

and Im glad you think you know what it is that way you can tell the doctor and save him from speaking.

Good luck
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Yet again iv experienced the same problem (like every other f**king injury imaginable). Yours shoes/ boots may be of poor quality. I found this started happening to me when i removed the insoles and walked at a fast pace or walked up hill. See a physio. I only got 4 weeks to go......


"The calf muscles are hot spots for circulatory problems. Sudden pains that show up during physical activity, such as walking, are usually a sign of what doctors call arterial insufficiency. That means the arteries aren't able to supply the calf muscles with enough blood and oxygen to meet their needs. This usually arises from atherosclerosis—hardening of the arteries.

On the other hand, pain and swelling while at rest could mean venous insufficiency. In this case, blood doesn't pump away from the calf muscles efficiently, so it backs up and causes pain.

Of the two, arterial insufficiency is the more common, and it is usually seen in the form of intermittent claudication. In this condition the painful cramping quickly comes and goes. It's always preceded by exercise, when the muscle demands more blood, and it's completely relieved within five to ten minutes of stopping the exertion that produced the pain. "


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* You experience a cramping pain that comes on with exercise and is immediately relieved with rest.

* You experience aching or throbbing at night.

* You've injured yourself and pain, discoloration and swelling are still there after 24 hours.

* You have unexplained pain that lasts more than three days.

* You notice any tender lumps beneath the skin.

What Your Symptom Is Telling You

Usually they're as quiet as a cow. Suddenly they're as angry as a bull. When calf pain strikes, it can strike hard, leaving your otherwise docile calves feeling like tenderized veal cutlets. And there's a whole herd of possible causes.

Any acute or overuse injury in the calf area can feel like a swift chop from a meat cleaver. Climb a ladder all day—or overreach just once for a low backhand in tennis—and you can easily strain or tear a muscle or tendon.

Frequently, however, calf pain has nothing to do with wear and tear. The calf muscles are hot spots for circulatory problems. Sudden pains that show up during physical activity, such as walking, are usually a sign of what doctors call arterial insufficiency. That means the arteries aren't able to supply the calf muscles with enough blood and oxygen to meet their needs. This usually arises from atherosclerosis—hardening of the arteries.

On the other hand, pain and swelling while at rest could mean venous insufficiency. In this case, blood doesn't pump away from the calf muscles efficiently, so it backs up and causes pain.

Of the two, arterial insufficiency is the more common, and it is usually seen in the form of intermittent claudication. In this condition the painful cramping quickly comes and goes. It's always preceded by exercise, when the muscle demands more blood, and it's completely relieved within five to ten minutes of stopping the exertion that produced the pain.

"Think of claudication as a heart attack of the lower leg," explains Joseph M. Giordano, M.D., professor and chief of surgery at George Washington University Hospital in Washington, D.C. "If blood flow is obstructed, the increased needs of the muscle aren't being met, and the attack occurs. With immediate rest, the muscle's blood demands return to normal, and the pain goes away."

"Intermittent claudication is a relatively benign and manageable condition, but people with more advanced arterial insufficiency can experience what is known as rest pain," says Richard F. Kempczinski, M.D., chief of vascular surgery at the University of Cincinnati College of Medicine. "The blood flow is so restricted that pain now comes on at rest or while sleeping. At its worst, the condition can produce painful, slow-healing ulcers or even gangrene."

The backup of blood arising from venous insufficiency can lead to the development of thrombophlebitis—an inflammation and clotting in the veins. The superficial variety, visible below the skin as a tender, reddish, varicose vein, is not too worrisome. But deep-vein thrombophlebitis can produce greater pain and a greater health risk if a clot should break away and move elsewhere in the body. Both produce tenderness, throbbing and heaviness.

Symptom Relief

If you have recurring or ongoing calf pain, it's important for you to see your doctor. But here are a few remedies you can try.

Feed your calf some RICE. The best recipe for an injured calf muscle is RICE: rest, ice applied intermittently throughout the day, compression with an elastic bandage and elevation of the feet with pillows. Bedrest and elevation will also alleviate the swelling and heaviness associated with thrombophlebitis, says Robert Ginsburg, M.D., director of the Cardiovascular Intervention Unit at the University of Colorado Health Science Center in Denver.

Try an OTC pain reliever. Over-the-counter anti-inflammatories like aspirin and ibuprofen will lessen the pain and swelling associated with a muscle injury or with thrombophlebitis, says Lyle Micheli, M.D., director of the Sports Medicine Division at Boston Children's Hospital and associate clinical professor of orthopedic surgery at Harvard Medical School.

Hoof it till it hurts. Though walking brings on intermittent claudication, a walking program is the first step in treating it. "You should walk until you reach your level of pain tolerance," says Dr. Giordano. "When you reach the point where you can't stand the pain anymore, stop. Push yourself a little more each day, keep increasing the distance, and gradually the condition will become less prevalent."

Stop smoking. People who have intermittent claudication should kick the habit, says Dr. Ginsburg. Smoking is a leading contributor to the atherosclerosis that decreases blood flow, he says.

Apply heat. A warm, not hot, heating pad or blanket can alleviate superficial pain from thrombophlebitis, says Dr. Ginsburg. (Don't use heat on a recent injury, however. It will make the swelling worse and interfere with healing.)

Step into support hose. Department store hosiery can constrict your circulation, but compression support stockings prescribed by a physician can greatly improve blood flow and relieve pain from venous insufficiency, says Dr. Kempczinski. "


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