Promotion from the ranks

[Wee Willy Winkie]

I have been thinking about joining the RM's as a recruit (ie not an officer) but if i wanted to i, i have the necessary academic qualifications to join the POC. NOTE, i dont want to sound bigheaded if i am. my question is this, can you join as a RM and then go onto do the POC or do you have to go through the ranks as a warrant officer 2 and then 1 to go for an officer. or can you simply not become an officer once you have joined as a regular without quitting (if you can do this). Cheers for the help, this has been bugging me for some time, Andy

[El Prez]

Andy, go into the dreaded search box and type in 'Corps Commission'.

[Wee Willy Winkie]

thankyou for your well informed reply Andy

[sneaky beaky]

Andy, as I said before at some stage, Please change your user name!
The image it sends to me is quite hilarious!!
Yes, you can join the Corps as a "nod" and if you seem to shine above your fellow recruits, you will probably be earmarked for a Corps Commission. It's a bit chancy though, if a particular instructor doesn't like you, your chancesare lowered.
If you have the qualifications, why not go straight for the POC? It will save you a lot of hassle!
Sneaky

[FUBAR]

Andy, I would certainly endorse Sneaky’s statement re the POC. I did it the hard way and believe you me you have to be quite determined because there are those amongst your ‘oppos’ who will think you are a total prat and go out of their way through verbal abuse and other strange happenings to relay their feelings about Officers !

Good luck.

[Wee Willy Winkie]

Firstly, if i could be bothered to change my name then of course i would to fit ino website rules and blah blah blah but i caaaaaaant so you'll have to live with it
Secondly, i feel i could do well as an officer overall. However, i REALLY hate standing in front of groups of people and giving lectures. i just go into a bag of nerves and say ermmm.... alot. So i dont think i would score highly in that region lol. Saying this, has anybody got any solutions or advice that would make me more comfortable and less nervous whilst up there. Cheers, Andy

[FUBAR]

One suggestion - get someone to video you whilst you are giving a presentation - you may be surprised at how well you come across, and if you don't you can see what you are doing wrong and make efforts to correct it.

Practice makes perfect, so get up there and do it ... whatever 'it' may be !

[speed freek]

Firstly, if i could be bothered to change my name then of course i would to fit ino website rules and blah blah blah but i caaaaaaant so you'll have to live with it
Secondly, i feel i could do well as an officer overall. However, i REALLY hate standing in front of groups of people and giving lectures. i just go into a bag of nerves and say ermmm.... alot. So i dont think i would score highly in that region lol. Saying this, has anybody got any solutions or advice that would make me more comfortable and less nervous whilst up there. Cheers, Andy

I know its easy from a standpoint of not being in your position but with fears (and thats what it basically is, a fear of speaking in public to groups) you just have to confront them im afraid, The key to speeches (i had to do many in college) is preparation, As fubar says maybe record yourself. If you know in advance what your speech is about then you basically need to be so prepared that your almost reading it off a piece of paper in your mind, that way your brain is working on what to say rather than thinking about the people watching you. best of luck.

[Doc]

Secondly, i feel i could do well as an officer overall. However, i REALLY hate standing in front of groups of people and giving lectures. i just go into a bag of nerves and say ermmm.... alot. So i dont think i would score highly in that region lol. Saying this, has anybody got any solutions or advice that would make me more comfortable and less nervous whilst up there. Cheers, Andy

Saying "errmmmm" is a good start for officer, "ya" is also a good one, as is "oh dear was that me!" once youve cracked that and your wearing your lid at a strange angle, driving a small sports car whilst wearing a blue blazer and shagging a lass that none of your lads can work out what she sees in you, and your on your way!

As for public speaking, it comes with practice, but once your confidence grows, look around the room and hold eye contact with someone for at least 4 seconds before moving on, alter your speech tone, and dont talk to the board or notes. Crack a funny, they will laugh cos ur a rupert. Failing that just detail off some lance jack to do it for you whilst you go back to the mess for a w@#k and a pink gin.

[Wee Willy Winkie]

thanks for the replies, im only 15 now and i am going to stay on at school for year 12 and 13 and i then might go into uni. to get a degree in teaching as i have read that a degree could be beneficial when applying for POC (and i have just thought that training to become a teacher would surely give me quite a lot of practise in speaking in front of others). I have along time to sort this 'condition' out so hopefully when im 22 or so i'll be 'driving a small sports car, wearing a blue blazer and shaggin a lass that none of my mates can see what she see's in moi hehehe' oh yeh , cant forget the 'wearing the lid at a strange angle!'
cheers Andy

[FUBAR]

Well Sneaky, now we know why he is called wee willy winkle !!

[speed freek]

Well Sneaky, now we know why he is called wee willy winkle !!

hahaha

[Wholley]

I don't think he's doing too bad for a
Fifteen year old"Control of the situation"Comes to mind.
"Wee Willie Winkle" You might wan't to change your name though....

[Madmick]

What about BIG Willie Winkle!! you can hang it on the rear vision mirror of your Sports car


Mad Mick

[Wee Willy Winkie]

well as you can see now, i took Numbnuts' advice and PM'ed Beast about changing my name to which he kindly did, so here i am Wee Willy Winkie anyway, i have another question now so i want your advice again, well you aint got anything better to do so...does an officer if he has passed POC and AIB have to do the 30 or so weeks of training a regular RM must do eg. the exercises such as hunters moon etc. i was just wondering as i do not know whether this is right or they go and train on their own becoming know-it-all pigs cheers again, Andy.