Question for guys in training...

[Daveb]

Hello lads,

I'm due to start foundation on 14th March but as most of the guys on here know, I have a hip injury (torn muscle). I've had to delay entry twice now and dont wanna delay it again.

My question is, would it be pointless going in with an injury? If I went in fit but re-injured myself within the first week, would I get binned?

I really dont wanna delay again, but also dont wanna bugger up my chances.

Cheers
Dave

[Doc]

Most Bootnecks wether in training or green lid'ed have problems with back-hips-knees-shins-ankles-willies

imagine yourself 5 years from now, being in pain and f@#k up due to the excesses of training on an already weak area of your body.

Load carrying, assault, endurance, tarzan courses, bottom field, gym sessions, even drill are going to cause you grief if it isnt right yet.

My tip is to delay until your 100%fit and pain free. Lets face it the first week you aint gonna know your arse from your elbow and your gonna be screaming around CTC like a blue arsed fly.

Techincally they can bin you for entering without declaring an injury and it flares up as soon as you do any phys. With a hip injury even drill is going to cause you grief. They may put you in Hunter troop, but thats usually for lads who they think can make it if they are mended, if you spass out in the first week or so, they wont think much of it and may even bin you for medical assesment in a years time which may mean doing your PRMC again.

think on it and think on your health your no use to man nor beast (nor woman) if your hips are shagged.

[JM]

Well dave I dont think the phys will be that intense in the first 2 weeks (i hope) and it will be mostly admin. Remember we are going to have a 2 week holiday straight after so you can nurse anything during that perhaps?

[Nade]

I think doc has got it right here. There is no point in going and making it worse, even if there is a 2 week break. There was a Sgt who took us for recruit training and he coudl hardly walk, it was bcoz he done in his hip when training then took pills to take away pain. He said he would be getting disabled car parking soon bcoz legs were that bad. You dont want to end up like that. He got pissed off at anyone that tried running etc. when they had an injury as he knew the consequences of that. Wait till its better and dont trian on it until then, swimming and upper body for now. wait till its 100% better

Nade

[JM]

Yeah infact id have to agree with doc and nade.

[lew]

Dave they're right, Royal isnt going anywhere soon mate.

Just be patient and you'll get there.


lew

[Chappy]

I agree with the above Dave. And your not going to say we are all wrong are you?

6 against 1, you might have a chance if you were %100 fit. But we know you aint.

[Nade]

Swimming, upperbody circuits (with little rest to make them harder and make heartrate high, maybe even into the HRTB). Then cycling when hip is better, to strengthen muscle without stressing it to much. Try some joint strengthening exercises to. Then once they are all going well then do running again. But since that knackers legs most leave it till last. Im sure you already know this but mentioning it anyway. Im not an expert on this by the way but its what I would do if I was in your situation.
Im sure you will get back to good fitness in no time once your well again, but gradually make it harder so hip has a chance to rebuilt what it has lost.

Nade

[mike_neon]

sorry to hear that dave, that must really be a kick in the teeth for you. I know how disapointing it can be for you as i had to face this problem in january so close to my previous date. For something like your hip mate i wouldnt bother, yes the first 2 weeks are going to be tough, and it wont mostly be admin at all, its foundation which is beastings in the gym twice a day, and any other out door phys they think they can throw at us. So if you cant train before ou go you wont be able to withstand the crap they give you. I think they will use the 2 weeks easter break to our disadvantage, as they dont want to get you there, do nothing for 2 weeks, have a break for 2 weeks, then come back and actually start i can see every one of us down there on the 14 th March having to earn this 2 weeks leave , as it is very close to us starting.

Only go if you feel up to it, get some proffesioanal physio looking at it and ask how long roughly it would be to get sorted. With my physio doc, i was lucky enough to find one who works with Marines so appreciated how much work was required, and the stress put out onto your body. He told me roughly how long before i would be fit again, and by god he was spot on! Dont go feeling unsure as that will pile on pressure on your self! All the best, and hope to see you there on 14th if you can make it

[W.Mitty]

if you start training with an injury, it is only gonna get worse not better, I would sort your self out, in the first week you have Gym test 1 again but the press ups,sit ups and pull ups are done to bleeps so its a lot harder, it would not look good if you do crap on them or if you have to go sick with a serious injury that you did before you arrived will look crap aswell and could get you binned.

Sort you injury out, get fit again then come down, I know some one with a hip injury in Hunter and he is gonna be there for ages, so be carefull.

[Daveb]

Thanks a lot for all your replies lads. It really is much appreciated

I just got back from the Chiropractor (she's also a sports injury therapist). She has been able to pinpoint exactly which muscle it is now and is 100% certain it is a tear. She says sometimes it will get worse before it gets better.

Thanks for all your replies lads. Reading your replies, I think you're right....if I aint fit, it aint worth me going in as I dont want to ruin my chances. I will give myself a deadline of this sunday coming....if I aint much better then, I will be forced to delay....again

[speed freek]

yo daveb, This time instead of delaying only 4 weeks or something, If its possible just get the maximum time your allowed to delay, If its 3 months then so be it... You have enough to worry about to then worry more about an approaching deadline. At least if your basic startdate was in 3 months time you could probably afford to do nothing for nearly a month to get it healed up, then 8 weeks of really hard work and i think you'll be ready to do it! Best of luck.

[Daveb]

Hi mate,

You're right. I should do that. I hate having to go into the office and delaying my entry. It's a really bad feeling you get when you do it and you can see the look on the AFCO's face.... not good.

A 3 month delay would be an idea, only thing that's holding me from doing that is money. I would have to get another job in the meantime....but if it has to be done, it has to be done.

As they say....good things come to those who wait

.....just I've waited over 3 months since passing PRMC! lol

[speed freek]

Yeah i imagine its pretty frustrating with all the waiting around. Remember though you passed the PRMC, Its YOUR career were talking about and your job from this point on isnt really to please the AFCO, Your number 1 priority in life is to now get completly healed and FIT, then get to CTCRM and give them 32 weeks of everything you got. If this process means you have to piss off an RM in the AFCO then thats just how its got to be..... Im sure they'll understand, and even if they dont aslong as you get your entry date delayed and have sufficent time to get yourself in good shape then what the AFCO staff think is nearly irrelevant. best of luck mate.

[JM]

Yeah remember dave, patience is a virtue