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are marines para trained
are marines para trained
hi guys i read somewere that alot o royal marines are parachute trained is tis true ? and any other info on this would be apreiciated (spelling)
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aprliaRS50
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Any Bootneck can apply for the Para Course. It all depends on whether or not you can be spared by your unit in all honesty.
All ML's have to do the course and so do all SBS. All ranks in the recce Troops do it as well normally. But I have seen plenty of blokes from all SQ's and TQ's within the Corp wearing the Para Wings.
It hacks off the Paras that Royal does not do "P" company but after the Commando course what is the point?
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All ML's have to do the course and so do all SBS. All ranks in the recce Troops do it as well normally. But I have seen plenty of blokes from all SQ's and TQ's within the Corp wearing the Para Wings.
It hacks off the Paras that Royal does not do "P" company but after the Commando course what is the point?
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........At least that's what I thought. I know I've been told that If i do get into 29 commando, I can earn my wings without doing P coy... yet if I wanted to be a Para gunner I'd have to do P coy before getting the maroon beret.
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The Paras are issued the Maroon Beret on Joining. They "Earn" the wings. And then the blue oval plastic bit behind the Para Cap Badge is removed and they then become "REAL" Paras.
Every Para who did the Commando course and served with the Marine Commandos wore the Green Lid. Any Royal Marine who served with the Paras and earned his wings retained the Green Lid. May sound a tad Bigheaded but that was the way it was when I was serving.
Any member of the Army who undertakes the Para course has to do "P" company regardless of his past courses be they Commando or whatever. It may well have changed by now but that is what it was like when I served.
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The Paras are issued the Maroon Beret on Joining. They "Earn" the wings. And then the blue oval plastic bit behind the Para Cap Badge is removed and they then become "REAL" Paras.
Every Para who did the Commando course and served with the Marine Commandos wore the Green Lid. Any Royal Marine who served with the Paras and earned his wings retained the Green Lid. May sound a tad Bigheaded but that was the way it was when I was serving.
Any member of the Army who undertakes the Para course has to do "P" company regardless of his past courses be they Commando or whatever. It may well have changed by now but that is what it was like when I served.
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druadan wrote:bigbart, think about what you just wrote...they're two different things entirely: P coy for maroon beret, AACC for green. Jump training can then be undertaken with either.
Read my post again. What I was saying was, non-Paras don't have to do P company to get their wings because the wings badge is earned by doing the jump course. Sorry if i worded it wrong. And i don't know how it used to be, but in another thread, people have said that the maroon beret is earned by doing P company. They said until this has been passed, recruits wear a navy beret with the Para badge.
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Think we're both taking different tangents to the same thing...
To earn you maroon beret and be a Para gunner, you'd have to do P-coy and jump course, just like to be a Commando gunner you'd have to do AACC.
To be a parachute-trained gunner ie. have your wings (not exactly the norm in my limited experience), you'd just have to do the jump course - but that wouldn't involve attachment to another unit (eg. Marines/Paras) or another beret. Does that make sense?
To be a jump trained Marine, you don't have to do P-coy, just jump course, so you'd still have your wings but with your original unit, just like if you happened to be a jump trained gunner.
What I'm trying to say, not very well, is that P-coy = maroon, AACC = green; then, separately, jump training = wings. It just so happens that all paras do jump training, and therefore if you have a maroon beret you must also get your wings.
I didn't know that the Paras get their berets from the start, I always thought the Maroon was for passing P-coy. That's today's little bit of learning anyhow...
Sorry, that was a rather long-winded way of putting it, don't mean to imply you're being a bit thick or anything
As an aside, today on my way up to Nottingham on the M1 I saw a lot of Engineers floating around the service stations northbound...they were mostly in civvy transport. Quite a few of them had maroon berets as well. Anyone any ideas what's going on?
To earn you maroon beret and be a Para gunner, you'd have to do P-coy and jump course, just like to be a Commando gunner you'd have to do AACC.
To be a parachute-trained gunner ie. have your wings (not exactly the norm in my limited experience), you'd just have to do the jump course - but that wouldn't involve attachment to another unit (eg. Marines/Paras) or another beret. Does that make sense?
To be a jump trained Marine, you don't have to do P-coy, just jump course, so you'd still have your wings but with your original unit, just like if you happened to be a jump trained gunner.
What I'm trying to say, not very well, is that P-coy = maroon, AACC = green; then, separately, jump training = wings. It just so happens that all paras do jump training, and therefore if you have a maroon beret you must also get your wings.
I didn't know that the Paras get their berets from the start, I always thought the Maroon was for passing P-coy. That's today's little bit of learning anyhow...
That's because with 29 you'd have done the AACC...see how it fits in with what I was saying above?I know I've been told that If i do get into 29 commando, I can earn my wings without doing P coy... yet if I wanted to be a Para gunner I'd have to do P coy before getting the maroon beret.
Sorry, that was a rather long-winded way of putting it, don't mean to imply you're being a bit thick or anything
As an aside, today on my way up to Nottingham on the M1 I saw a lot of Engineers floating around the service stations northbound...they were mostly in civvy transport. Quite a few of them had maroon berets as well. Anyone any ideas what's going on?
We are saying the same things, just wording it differently. Someone earlier said that Paras dont like it that bootnecks/Commandoes get wings without doing P-Company. So I left that message, saying that the "wings" are earned by doing the jump course, which is why they don't have to do P-Company. Because like you said, you only have to do P-Company if you want to serve with a Para unit. Anyone can get wings if they do the jump course. P-Company is for people who want to work with a Para unit. Are we agreeing now?
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