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Hi i was wondering if anyone knows anything about the Russian special forces (spetznas) sorry if the spelling is wrong, what is the selection like and what operations have they been used in. How do they compare to our SAS/SBS?
If you have a look on http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums there are numerous threads on this subect. There is a guy who claims to be Russian, ex Afghanistan. I'm don't know if it's true or not but after reading some of his posting, he certainly knows his stuff.
I knew an ex-spetsnaz guy once. He'd done the training then left apparently. He never talked about it but his friend (also Russian) muttered something about it occasionally. He said he used to faint during training it was so hard, and one of the final things was simply a free for all. A very nice bloke though, a big guy, quiet but had crazy eyes. He's over here studying and is a bouncer somewhere. Good at it, I hear!
I was wondering what he was on about. I've got a lot of respect for the Russians; they're a tough bunch, as any German who went to visit them in the forties will testify. I suppose it's partly because of the gruelling living conditions. Apparently they have this martial art called Russian Style, the purest form of which the Spetsnaz alone used to practise. It was an amalgamation of loads of tricks and styles of duffing one's comrade up from all over Russia and is reckoned to be dead old. The Russian guy I mentioned above claimed to know a bit of it from some headcase back in Siberia, and promptly proved it by throwing all the I'M A SCAMMER SPAMMER!!! knives and a pair of scissors into the far wall. Being very easily impressed, this was quite possibly the best thing I'd seen a mortal man do so far. Fortunately, it's also relatively easy to learn, although it's meant a lot of time with plaster of paris and sandpaper. :rainbow1:
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Interesting site here: http://www.spetsnaz-gru.com/
Towards the end of the cold war, there was a huge amount of Soviet special forces activity in the UK. One briefing we had by Int was with regard to "the threat". It was apparent that outfits such as spetznaz would be aided by in-situ "sleepers". Literally, some old lady who has run the village post office for 30 years, would one day (after being "activated"), leave a package for someone or change a railway signal somehow to facilitate further action by infiltrators.
In '83, a C/Sgt in my unit was in his back garden in a village north of Reading. The farmer who had been plowing his field close by knew he was in the army and came by to say that his plough had pulled something odd out of the ground.
My mate called it in and the container was taken away after the bomb disposal guys had checked it out. The after action report indicated that the container (about the size of a dustbin), was in fact hermetically sealed and contained two folding stock AK's, a couple of hundred rds of ammo, Russian PE, dets, det cord, and remote initiation devices, and a couple of extremely advanced radios (multi-band, oscillating frequency, auto-encryption - very advanced for the time!).
A Russian guy at my work (one of our international sales reps) got talking to me once and I asked him what he knew about the Spetznaz. He had served in the Russian army himself, but insisted they were just a special police force.
The int brief we got that time also included their MO and SOPs. Apparently, their SOP upon a their patrol being compromised was to execute the signaler as he had all the code memorized. I'm thinking they probably didn't advertise that too broadly or they would have had a constant shortage of sigs.
Towards the end of the cold war, there was a huge amount of Soviet special forces activity in the UK. One briefing we had by Int was with regard to "the threat". It was apparent that outfits such as spetznaz would be aided by in-situ "sleepers". Literally, some old lady who has run the village post office for 30 years, would one day (after being "activated"), leave a package for someone or change a railway signal somehow to facilitate further action by infiltrators.
In '83, a C/Sgt in my unit was in his back garden in a village north of Reading. The farmer who had been plowing his field close by knew he was in the army and came by to say that his plough had pulled something odd out of the ground.
My mate called it in and the container was taken away after the bomb disposal guys had checked it out. The after action report indicated that the container (about the size of a dustbin), was in fact hermetically sealed and contained two folding stock AK's, a couple of hundred rds of ammo, Russian PE, dets, det cord, and remote initiation devices, and a couple of extremely advanced radios (multi-band, oscillating frequency, auto-encryption - very advanced for the time!).
A Russian guy at my work (one of our international sales reps) got talking to me once and I asked him what he knew about the Spetznaz. He had served in the Russian army himself, but insisted they were just a special police force.
The int brief we got that time also included their MO and SOPs. Apparently, their SOP upon a their patrol being compromised was to execute the signaler as he had all the code memorized. I'm thinking they probably didn't advertise that too broadly or they would have had a constant shortage of sigs.
Don't worry mate we all have an alter ego, don't we, yeah, know what you mean, so what are we doing this evening, don't know, what do you fancy? I'll leave it up to you, but I'm driving!
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You should talk to somebody who gives a f**k.
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Yeah, I've seen that site, it's got footage of the bloke demonstrating unarmed combat, hasn't it? It looks woefully ineffective in those sequences. The attackers wait for a light, indiscernible tap and that's them bust. I realise it's staged, of course, and I suppose there might be more to it than meets the eye...
Interesting stuff about the Russian stash in that field, though. The farmer must have been crapping himself at night after that!
Bit of a raw deal being a signaller, too.
Interesting stuff about the Russian stash in that field, though. The farmer must have been crapping himself at night after that!
Bit of a raw deal being a signaller, too.
