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sneaky beaky
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Neither is best or harder! Neither is more professional than the other. All do the same sort of training. They then go on to other forms of specialist training!!
But of course the SBS are the best.!!
But then that is a stupid comment, because the SAS are also very good!
What the f**k does it matter. They both have a job to do and do it very well. It doesn't really matter who does it better.
They both do a difficult job, very well.
Sneaky
But of course the SBS are the best.!!
But then that is a stupid comment, because the SAS are also very good!
What the f**k does it matter. They both have a job to do and do it very well. It doesn't really matter who does it better.
They both do a difficult job, very well.
Sneaky
Former RM of 23 years.
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sneaky beaky wrote:Neither is best or harder! Neither is more professional than the other. All do the same sort of training. They then go on to other forms of specialist training!!
But of course the SBS are the best.!!
But then that is a stupid comment, because the SAS are also very good!
What the f**k does it matter. They both have a job to do and do it very well. It doesn't really matter who does it better.
They both do a difficult job, very well.
Sneaky
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bootneck
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at the end of the day, its the, "Enemy" who should be farking worried, not a snotty nosed wannabe. Just be thankful that the guys are/have been there when needed, whether in a high profile gig like the "Embassy", or a low profile one, like a couple of years ago, when frog sqn took over a boat in London, secured it, handed it over to the old bill and customs...........and farked off back over the side. i believe the only publicity was some phots taken by an early rising civvie, who promptly handed them over to the sun
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You've gotta laugh!
It could be 0400hrs, in the middle of a darkened wood secured inside a blacked out tupperware box covered by a thick blanket and still some civvy will capture the moment in all its glory for the world to see! (courtesy of our esteemed journo friends!)
Don't these people have anything better to do like taking "artistic" phots of the wife ( or any wife for that matter!)
It could be 0400hrs, in the middle of a darkened wood secured inside a blacked out tupperware box covered by a thick blanket and still some civvy will capture the moment in all its glory for the world to see! (courtesy of our esteemed journo friends!)
Don't these people have anything better to do like taking "artistic" phots of the wife ( or any wife for that matter!)
"When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy."
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roger that H_N, will do with utmost urgency (has to be in a week though, off to New York aren't i!!!) i'll post pics of my vacation on here if i remember and if anybody wants to see 'em. Andy 
"All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time"
I found this letter on www.specialoperations.com it is from an ex SBS bloke:
After reading your description regarding the SBS, I feel that it is important for me to encourage you to make some amendments. It is the general mistake for people to make the assumption that the SBS is inferior to her special
forces cousin, the SAS. However, this is untrue.
Her majesty's government hold the SBS in higher regard than the SAS, and there is one important reason for this. The recruits for the SBS are of a higher calibre due to the fact that they have already been through the arduous training required to become a Royal Marine commando in the first place. Members of the SAS are drafted from all areas of the British Army and therefore would have received inferior basic training to those members of The Royal Marines who have already attended the longest basic infantry course within NATO and indeed the world.
There is another reason why the SBS is regarded higher than the SAS, and this is the contrast between the regiments attitudes to service. Because the SAS are forever in the public eye, members of the regiment usually have inflated egos. This has been known to regularly interfere in their professionalism, most notably during the Falklands conflict where order were disregarded on many occasions, putting the task force deployed at enormous risk. The Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher straight away put heavy reliance on the SBS due to the fact that she now held a great deal of mistrust for the SAS.
Selection for the SBS is also more arduous in comparison of that undertaken by the SAS. Not only do recruits have to cover the syllabus required to become a member of the SAS, they also have to be educated in methods of diving, submarine insertion, advanced marine reconnaissance, canoeing and other specialist waterborne methods of warfare.
As far as the amalgamation of the special forces goes, this is as good a speculation. If it was to happen, an SBS officer would most certainly be in charge of the newly formed regiment. Although training has become more integrated between the two services, SAS servicemen still feel a certain amount of jealousy for not being able to become SBS members, and tensions between the two regiments exist today stronger than ever!
The Ministry of Defence (MoD) keeps the SBS regiment size down to 250 in strength. This is to maximise efficiency, mobility and the level of secrecy, which the SAS can never have due to it's sheer size in numbers and profile in the public eye. High profile missions are therefore always undertaken by the SAS, but the ones that really do directly relate to the security of the United Kingdom and the safety of Her majesty ( the missions which are kept secret in order to prevent panic within the nation!) are always, in my experience anyway, undertaken by members of the SBS Regiment.
I Hope that i have been able to convince you. Also there is reading material avaliable, a book entilted "Not by Strength but by Guile" by a former collegue of mine, written in an attempt to set the record straight about which is the most elite service.
After reading your description regarding the SBS, I feel that it is important for me to encourage you to make some amendments. It is the general mistake for people to make the assumption that the SBS is inferior to her special
forces cousin, the SAS. However, this is untrue.
Her majesty's government hold the SBS in higher regard than the SAS, and there is one important reason for this. The recruits for the SBS are of a higher calibre due to the fact that they have already been through the arduous training required to become a Royal Marine commando in the first place. Members of the SAS are drafted from all areas of the British Army and therefore would have received inferior basic training to those members of The Royal Marines who have already attended the longest basic infantry course within NATO and indeed the world.
There is another reason why the SBS is regarded higher than the SAS, and this is the contrast between the regiments attitudes to service. Because the SAS are forever in the public eye, members of the regiment usually have inflated egos. This has been known to regularly interfere in their professionalism, most notably during the Falklands conflict where order were disregarded on many occasions, putting the task force deployed at enormous risk. The Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher straight away put heavy reliance on the SBS due to the fact that she now held a great deal of mistrust for the SAS.
Selection for the SBS is also more arduous in comparison of that undertaken by the SAS. Not only do recruits have to cover the syllabus required to become a member of the SAS, they also have to be educated in methods of diving, submarine insertion, advanced marine reconnaissance, canoeing and other specialist waterborne methods of warfare.
As far as the amalgamation of the special forces goes, this is as good a speculation. If it was to happen, an SBS officer would most certainly be in charge of the newly formed regiment. Although training has become more integrated between the two services, SAS servicemen still feel a certain amount of jealousy for not being able to become SBS members, and tensions between the two regiments exist today stronger than ever!
The Ministry of Defence (MoD) keeps the SBS regiment size down to 250 in strength. This is to maximise efficiency, mobility and the level of secrecy, which the SAS can never have due to it's sheer size in numbers and profile in the public eye. High profile missions are therefore always undertaken by the SAS, but the ones that really do directly relate to the security of the United Kingdom and the safety of Her majesty ( the missions which are kept secret in order to prevent panic within the nation!) are always, in my experience anyway, undertaken by members of the SBS Regiment.
I Hope that i have been able to convince you. Also there is reading material avaliable, a book entilted "Not by Strength but by Guile" by a former collegue of mine, written in an attempt to set the record straight about which is the most elite service.
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If that was written by a serving or ex member of the SBS then Im Tom Cruise!
What a load of shite, ash stick to phys mate and stop reading shite that will pollute your mind.
Theres so many inaccuracies in that letter, that even I, a lame bystander, can see. My only claim to fame with the SB is scoring a try against them in the inter-unit rugger .
The book quoted is shite, dont buy it, the guy wasnt even SB badged, he was in the support coy.
Anyway Im sure someone with first hand experience may comment.
Doc
What a load of shite, ash stick to phys mate and stop reading shite that will pollute your mind.
Theres so many inaccuracies in that letter, that even I, a lame bystander, can see. My only claim to fame with the SB is scoring a try against them in the inter-unit rugger
. The book quoted is shite, dont buy it, the guy wasnt even SB badged, he was in the support coy.
Anyway Im sure someone with first hand experience may comment.
Doc
Ash2y
A sales pitch for a rubbish book written by a drug runner, who as Doc points out was never a member of the SBS.
This information is in the public domain if you would care to search, rather than take such web sites as 'specialoperations' as being genuine.
You seem to be interested in fishing as a hobby!
Rover
A sales pitch for a rubbish book written by a drug runner, who as Doc points out was never a member of the SBS.
This information is in the public domain if you would care to search, rather than take such web sites as 'specialoperations' as being genuine.
You seem to be interested in fishing as a hobby!
Rover
