THE BITCH IS DEAD

[Wholley]

I just hope Obama is smart enough to to keep her off his VP list.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080605/ap_on_el_pr/clinton

[Wholley]

Oh Dear!!!
If he doe's McCain wins.
YESSSSS.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080606/ap_on_el_pr/clinton

[Rogue Chef]

Wholley,
I think I get it, but can you please clarify.

If Obama selects Clinton for VP then McCain wins the Presidency? Is that correct?

[Wholley]

Erm...
In a nutshell yes.
Both Obama and Clinton are despised in the South(For the obvious reasons)They may get the Northern Tier States but with the ever increasing population in the Southern States they would not have a hope.
McCain is from Arizona and a war vet and a well respected senior Senator,Clinton is a liar and Obama is largely unknown outside of Illinois.
Does that help or just muddy the waters further?

[Rogue Chef]

Not really. It was the impact of the relationship between Obama and Clinton that I was wondering about.
So Obama is the Dems man for the Pres and Clinton is?
Is McCain the Rep man for the Pres?
How do you know he will win?

[df2inaus]

I don't care who wins the presidency at this point, now that it won't be Clinton. Good luck to McCain and Obama, may it it a gallant, chivalrous campaign.

[Wholley]

Like thats going to happen

[anglo-saxon]

Yes, thank goodness that phoney, lying cow is out of the picture (for now). Another spoiled brat who would ahve royally screwed things up. Plus, she was on a kick to change the second amendment for the worse! Obama is a bad seed IMO. He's on an agenda, big time.

[London Boy]

A certain Morrissey lyric seems very apt in these days of non-white non-male candidates

Singing about the USA:
"Where the president is never black, female or gay"

Well 2 out of 3 ain't bad. Actually... anyone know what team McCain plays for? We might get the hattrick!

[GD]

Bugger - I thought and hoped this was about Bernadette Devlin.

[London Boy]

Bugger - I thought and hoped this was about Bernadette Devlin.

Ouch! I met her once on duty! Pleasant enough, I suppose.

[PoliSci]

If Obama wins Osama and millions of nutcase islamists will take that as a retreat. McCain all the way. This is a guy who actually understand counter insurgency warfare better than anyone I have ever heard in politics worldwide. He understands Nuyen Gap, Roger Trinquier, T.E. Lawrence, Frank Kitson, etc.

McCain is a dream candidate for this war. Who knows what will happen to the economy though...

[GD]

I don't think it maters who gets in. The US is committed to a certain foreign policy which has been ratified by Congress. Whoever the President is has to take the same advice from the same military and administrative advisors as Bush had (apart from his immediate staff).

Nothing will change, excuses will be made and the troops will stay in.

[Wholley]

I have to agree with PoliSci.
McCain is the way to go although he is a little too centerist for me personaly.My absentee balllot is already on it's way.
I know Obama has not a hope in the South.

[PoliSci]

The US is committed to a certain foreign policy which has been ratified by Congress. Whoever the President is has to take the same advice from the same military and administrative advisors as Bush had (apart from his immediate staff).

Nothing will change, excuses will be made and the troops will stay in.

Well I hope your right but the French left Algeria and encouraged the terrorists, then the Americans left beiruit after the bombing and encouraged hezbolla, then we tuck tailed from Africa (in some ways) after the Kenya bombings. Im afraid that Afganistan and Iraq will just be another step backwards. These islamists are not fighting us because "we hurt them", they have imperialistic agendas of their own and they wont stop unless they get stopped...