AJtothemax wrote:**Holds up a VERY BIG white flag** Sorry guys, i do apologise and i never intended for an arguement, i just rwad through the thing this morning and thought id post something after someone else did the other day thats all. Thanks Spenny by the way.
Sorry once again. Just wanted to make it clear (and im sure you all know) that a pro football player couldn't compete with a RM when it comes to fitness.
Fair enough AJ
Just watch out for the swearing etc no need for that - the same for other posters to MFAT
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Firstly I never stated that I was a Royal Marine and yes at the moment I am considering joining RMR Scotland.
This entire debate was born out of the fact that one person believed a pro footballer is able to TAB/Yomp/March better with weight than a Marine. I disagree on that, as I know first hand from working alongside Royal and from good friends who are Commandos, that their fitness, determination etc is of the highest order. Also I was defending the Corps as this is the RM Forum - had this same post been on the Parachute Regiment site or The Royal Regiment of Scotland site, I would have defended them just as much
I didn’t use the word Yomp as I am not a RM (yet) and used the term March as opposed to TAB, as I was attempting to generalise for all services. I am however very well versed in Bootneck slang.
As for my statement that I can march 30 miles etc etc - I can and I have. Just because I havent served in the Corps doesn’t mean I don’t have military experience in another unit. Also as a civilian I have covered these types of distances in the scottish mountains and as Im sure your aware, the kit and equiptment you carry on this type of distance (especially if your living in the field for a period of time) can be extremelly heavy. I have no reason to come on here bull*hitting about what I can and cant do, as the only person I have something to prove to is me and what my limits are.
Have a look at every post I have made here and on Rum Ration - do I sound like a Walt? You get plenty of them on this website, claiming to be ex Super Troopers, Paras and Commandos but I am not one of them. I do however have a particular bond with the Royal Marines, in that I believe they are one of the finest fighting units in the world - If Im on the RM Forum and I have strong feelings about a particular post, of course Im going to defend it. If your going to shoot me down and make accusations without approaching me first to confirm my background, then I obvioulsy have the wrong idea about this site and don’t belong here.
Fair enough Flo - I can see where your coming from.
Perhaps I was a bit argumentative and not taking into account that it was posted by a younger member (and that it was a few years ago) - for that I apologise. I will ensue my future posts are more constructive and less of a slagging match.
I totally understand that it's your choice if you dont wish to put your background up for all to see, but it really does help in alot of ways if members are aware of what people have done and wish to do in the future. It just gives us all an understanding of each other, when we know where people are coming from and what they have done.
just a thought!
and good luck with the RMR if you go down that route.
AJtothemax wrote:
Sorry once again. Just wanted to make it clear (and im sure you all know) that a pro football player couldn't compete with a RM when it comes to fitness.
AJ, I don't mean to be argumentative here, just making idle conversation, but do you really think a RM is fitter than a top pro footballer? Hmm, maybe they have more strentgh upper body wise, but I reckon most top premiership players would give RM's a run for their money. I mean after all, they are getting paid all that money, they can't drink really, can't smoke, cant even have sex the night before a match lol! I think you under estimate how fit they are, they train every single day exept before matches and match days. I know marines are fit, but they enjoy their vices aswell, where as a footballer can't do anything except train and play. Anyway, please don't shout me down anyone as a walter or a wannabe or anything because I'm just making conversation.
AJtothemax wrote:
Sorry once again. Just wanted to make it clear (and im sure you all know) that a pro football player couldn't compete with a RM when it comes to fitness.
AJ, I don't mean to be argumentative here, just making idle conversation, but do you really think a RM is fitter than a top pro footballer? Hmm, maybe they have more strentgh upper body wise, but I reckon most top premiership players would give RM's a run for their money. I mean after all, they are getting paid all that money, they can't drink really, can't smoke, cant even have sex the night before a match lol! I think you under estimate how fit they are, they train every single day exept before matches and match days. I know marines are fit, but they enjoy their vices aswell, where as a footballer can't do anything except train and play. Anyway, please don't shout me down anyone as a walter or a wannabe or anything because I'm just making conversation.
I don't think you can really compare pro footballers to RM's both have totally different requirements.
However if for example the average premiership footballer turned up for a PRMC, I'm sure he would quite easily pass.
When it comes to running with weight and yomping obviously anyone who hasn't had much experience of this is going to find it difficult initially.
At the end of the day the fitness required to pass the commando test is nothing unbelievable and quite possible for most people.
rc wrote:I don't think you can really compare pro footballers to RM's both have totally different requirements.
However if for example the average premiership footballer turned up for a PRMC, I'm sure he would quite easily pass.
When it comes to running with weight and yomping obviously anyone who hasn't had much experience of this is going to find it difficult initially.
At the end of the day the fitness required to pass the commando test is nothing unbelievable and quite possible for most people.
Rich.
I would agree with this however I think from talking to current and former Royals - fitness is only part of it. Really no one can comfortable pass the commando tests, its the people who have the mental strength and that can push through the pain that will pass. Fitness only plays a part of RM training from what I gather. Its the mental strength that sorts the men from the boys - and you can really train for that!
