Weight Training Question

[marcus2007]

Squat..Sleep...Repeat.

You should always try and incorporate Free Weight training into your schedule to build up your ligaments and stabilising muscles. As using a machine already has a determined path so you arent building them up.

Always make sure you use the basic movements in any weight training program.

Military Press
Deadlift
Bench Press
Squat (These are very important)
Wide Pull-ups (These should form part of your training)

Hope this helps mate.

All the best

[Stokey_14]

Military Press
Deadlift
Bench Press
Squat (These are very important)
Wide Pull-ups (These should form part of your training)

I'd personally add:

Bent over rows
weighted parallel dips
perhaps some oly lifts too

I'd also say that dead lift is equally as useful (I don’t believe important is the word as they aren’t necessary, just very useful) as squats and all there variations... a strong back and hamstring counts for a lot!

(Believe it's called something like the posterior chain... possibly wrong on that one though)

As Spence rightly said heavy free weight training isn't going to turn you into the next Ronnie Coleman or Andy Bolton if packing on size was that easy then there would be a hell of a lot more muscular folks around, a friend of mine has been body building seriously for 4 years now and he has gained a lot of size, but still is no were near being what you would class as a bodybuilder type... just very athletic looking.

So some Maximal strength work each week isn't going to hinder you down at CTC, just so long as it doesn't get in the way of you're endurance work first and foremost.

Stokey

[Artist]

For myself I would just say these simple words: Work Hard & Play Hard It did for me as it did for thousands of other Bootnecks who earned the Green Lid.

Don't understand this fixation about lifting weights, press ups, pull ups and all the other crap truth be told. I never needed to lift a weight in order to get myself from point A to Z via point B to Y whilst I was serving gentlemen. All I did was listen and learn from my training team.

Artist

[E5_Man]

A simple full body workout you only really need 4/5 compounds plus 2/3 isolations.
Chest
Quads
Back
Hams
Shoulders

[Artist]

A simple full body workout you only really need 4/5 compounds plus 2/3 isolations.
Chest
Quads
Back
Hams
Shoulders

Been there and got the T Shirt.

I used to weigh 16 stone, was 6' tall, and was good at my job 25 years ago. Now weigh just under 12 stone, 5' 10" in height. Feck it, I know sweet FA anymore!

A fixation concerning weights and muscles prior to starting Commando training is not a good move. Most recruits on passing out of training were racing snakes in my day with confidence coming out of every piece of their bodies.

Blokes built like a brickshithouse were the ones who wrapped due mainly to their inability to be able to hack the sort of stuff that requires agility and quick reactions. But what do I know!

Been a Civvy for nearly 18 years & quite frankly find some of the posters on this site silly people.

Artist

[E5_Man]

I guess its different for me now though, because im no longer joining. process fell to kak. doc was a total nobjob. I will defo join later in life. i enrolled on a college course in sports science and lovin it.

[Dangermouse]

Okay, obviously what I said did not make sense to you.

Free weights do not equal bodybuilders. Nor have free weights ever been the be all and end all. Finally no one ever got stronger by losing weight (and I use the term "stronger" in the generic sense that the majority of people on this site use the term "fitness").

It's interesting how you have quite clearly developed negative connotations with (in particular) free weights and the notion of bodybuilding. Clearly training in the manner a bodybuilder would train would not help you pass selection or get you into RT, however I can see far more benefits of incorperating somthing simple like heavy deadlifts into a training programme to acheive the latter goal than sitting at the chest press machine.


The style in which you go about trying to acheive your goals is of no concern to me, what baffles me is your rationale behind it all.

When I have shown negative attitidues towards free weights? All I'm saying is that I am not using free weights. I'm just doing circuits, cardio work and more circuits. That's it. I never said that free weights are only used by bodybuilders - I was just pointing out that I was in a gym all summer surrounded by big blokes and was tempted to try a heavy weights routine, but have since decided against that.

Nothing that I've said is irrational. There must be extremely fit serving Royal Marine PTis who never use heavy weights.

[Dangermouse]

Lets just ignore every f**king thing I've said shall we? Good

[marcus2007]

Listen mate, do what YOU feel is right. You seem to have a pretty good idea about things anyway. I haven't touched a dumbell or machine for about 4-5 months, and I recently tested myself down the gym, and all my 1 Rep Maxes are up.

All the best mate.

[stella]

Back to the original question, are you allowed entry into the Royal Marines if you have taken steroids? I personnally have not taken them but my friend who I'm applying with in September has taken them, don't know if he still is though. His size does not affect him at all he is still fit we do 3 milers 4 times per week. Anyway will my friend be told he can't join??

Edited by T_T due to a lack of capital letters.

[ADDiction]

Depends entirely on what he used, and when he last used it.

[Alfa]

back to the original question are you aloud entry into the royal marines if you have taken steroids i personnally have not taken them but my friend who im applying with in september as taken them dont know if he still is though. his size does not affect him at all he is still fit we do 3 milers 4 times per week anyway will my friend be told he cant join??

If I was him, I'd stop taking them if he hasn't already, and when they asked about drugs I'd say I'd never taken them and that I agreed with the current Forces policy on drugs, that way it won't be a factor.

Honesty is usually the best policy when applying to join the Forces but when it comes to drugs it's best to just say you haven't in my opinion.

(That is of course assuming he's never been been in any trouble over drugs which would show up on his record)

[mm1306]

I felt the need to say this: if you do weight train do not become one of these sad acts with the bulked up arms, chest, abs etc but with the chicken legs. I have seen it a few times and it is always hilarious.

Also I have noticed something interesting; in the gym you always see 90% of people slowly pumping out a few sets and then resting for ages and chatting and then getting bored and heading off. I have to compare this with a video of the field gun team training for the old royal tournament: they lift weights at crazy speed for probably a minute or so and then they change excercise and do the same always at max speed. This is probably good if you are determined enough(you can't quarrel with success and these guys are crazy fit) but you would probably look like some sort of headcase in most places(not that that should put you off).

[misterpurple]

Not sure why this thread has reached four pages. As has been said lifting weights won't be of much use unless your like Kate Moss, it just adds more weight which will affect your speed, agility and endurance. If you stick with it (and if you're really that concerned) push-ups, pull-ups and sit-ups with a good diet will build efficient size. Which is it you really want to be, a Royal Marine or a bodybuilder??

Finally no one ever got stronger by losing weight (and I use the term "stronger" in the generic sense that the majority of people on this site use the term "fitness").

It's not about brute strength. If you can't pull your own bodyweight up and down/across a rope it doesn't matter if you can bench 200kg or a stick of celery.

[AJtothemax]

It's not about brute strength. If you can't pull your own bodyweight up and down/across a rope it doesn't matter if you can bench 200kg or a stick of celery.

This.
Simply put there and its right.

Also, it really p*ss'es me off when people bang on about how doing weights will make you look like a 'bodybuilder'. You don't know what you're talking about, shut up. Ok?
You clearly have no understanding about how much effort and life change it takes to do that. Simply lifting weights wont make you that way so stop saying that.

Stick to the quoted above and you can't go wrong. Do press-ups, pull-ups, tricep dips, rope climbing and other bodyweight exercises to improve.

Regards,

AJ.