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Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2003 11:23 pm
by voodoo sprout
Jules, that is one reason (going back to what I said about mens natural desire to protect women), but this is one thing which SF training can probably overcome.

Just to clarify, my comment below is said with NO military service whatsoever, or ANY involvement in high stress activities with women. It's said mainly from comon sense, secnd hand experiece and education.

And regards to women often being temperemental. This is another biological fact, but I don't think it is necessarily a reason for exclusion myself. Capt. Phillipa (I do hate the way the media insists on using nicknames for everyone where possible, especially where they are in a position to command respect and authority such as this... But that's an entirely different debate :) ) Tattersall is a shining example of this going right. Ignoring the PR aspect of her aquisition of the green beret, she was put on equal footing, given equal training and is widely respected as much as men in her position (by the people that matter at ay rate). It is probably that, had she shown the instability that many people associate with women, it would have been recognised, and brought agaist her. What I am getting at is that people are different, and if anyone, male or female ar sufficiently stable even at the worst time, then it is not a problem. If anything it possibly implies they will be more stable than is required in other times, which would work in everyones favour.

It may be that this level of stability can only be attained by half a dozen women in the country, bu as long as hat means only those half dozen are elligable for selecton in this regards then s be it. Like with foreign units recruitig women with lower standards (like with the Canadians a mentioned above, but the Americans are the msot comon examples), that is the wrong way to go about it. The way we would do it (unless the government gets even softer - but givn their current rightward drift I keep my hopes up :) ) would be to maintia standards, and simply say "if that means less women can get in, tough".

And by the way Jay, why exactly are you refraining please? Do you have hardline views one way or the other that may offend, do you think this is rather pointless and not worth the effort (and I can completely sympathise with you if that is the case :) ), or is it something else? Just interested :).

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2003 11:30 pm
by rabby
I read on some other post on this forum that Capt. Pillipa Tattersall was alowed different times on runs etc and didnt have to meet certain standards but this was never officially recognised.

Don't shout at me ladies i'm only repeating what someone els wrote!!

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2003 11:56 pm
by wilson
So if my Auntie had Boll*$ks, would she be my uncle? :-?

If so bring on the selection! :lol:

Aye,
wilson

Posted: Tue 21 Jan, 2003 10:47 am
by Sisyphus
No, you'd be her niece! 8)

Posted: Tue 21 Jan, 2003 6:24 pm
by Toni
u wot?
:o

Posted: Tue 21 Jan, 2003 6:25 pm
by Toni
#@&% off lozhop you think your so cool you dont even know me

Posted: Tue 21 Jan, 2003 7:03 pm
by Beast
Nice! :o
I just hate it when women swear, not right.
Call me old fasion then. ;)
Hangon Loz, while i'll cover my ears for return fire. :)

Posted: Tue 21 Jan, 2003 7:07 pm
by tony dean
I think theres only one way to solve this argument like grown adults.......













.......Mudfight...............in bikinis!........ 8)

Posted: Tue 21 Jan, 2003 7:12 pm
by Beast
I only know one chap with 'off' in his name... no surely it couldn't be! :o

Now your talking Tony, can i be the camera man, go on please.
We could sell copies for the latest fund raiser. ;)
Well every little helps. :lol:

Posted: Tue 21 Jan, 2003 7:48 pm
by Jim C
Way to go Loz way to go.
Thats whats lacking in this country, a wee bit of fire in our belly, sort the youth of today out, put them back in their place..... and are you sure we can't talk you into the mud wrestling bit though?
:Fade-color

Posted: Tue 21 Jan, 2003 8:11 pm
by Jim C
Young Toni has gone all quiet don't you think. Perhaps she had some homework to do before school tommorrow........

:Fade-color

Loz, I won't bring up the subject of mud wrestling ever again, well not for a wee while anyway.

Posted: Tue 21 Jan, 2003 9:12 pm
by El Prez
Whas happenin' whas goin' on? I'm sposed ter no wots happnin' dude.

That's Parry's attempt to keep in touch with Yoof culture! Come on out Toni. No probs out here. Loz has a worse bark than her bite, mind you she has left quite a nasty mark on a few arses. Harry was one arse, Chris was another, and then there was poor old Ross; who couldn't take anymore and joined the Royal Marines crying for sanctuary. 8)

Posted: Wed 22 Jan, 2003 2:13 am
by U0001
I say ley women try out, BUT they have exactly the same standards as men and get no special privilages. So if they cant do it exactly the same as men they fail.

You wanted to be treated equally start acting and performing equally!

Posted: Wed 22 Jan, 2003 8:06 am
by wilson
Cor Loz, you turned the heat up on this here thread.........

Toni where you gone? Toni, Toni?

Now back to the important stuff! MUD WRESTLING, my only request is that we dont have to see Rob rolling around in it wearing a bikini! :lol:

Aye,
wilson :wink:

Posted: Wed 22 Jan, 2003 9:40 am
by Beast
Don't put ideas in his head Wilson. :lol: