U.S. Army

[81mm]

they may be shit when it comes to most things, but that can only be improved by training/operations, at the moment most of their units marines, paras, rangers and hat regiments are getting combat experience in some nasty places, a lot of the time they back up sf on ops, so there bar room banter may be a little bit better than most of the brit blokes that slag them off,, a 2 way range comes to mind. Also if you tell them you served x number of years in para reg/ marines or sf, they will make exeptions, even if you are a couple of years over the cut off age. and take you in the army.

[Artist]

I worked a fair few times with Uncle Sams Misguided Children and was surprised at just how many USMC grunts were from other parts of the world. A lot were from Central America.

The current War Lord in Somalia was a Yank Marine. He even served as a Marine in his own country of Birth when his Pop was the War Lord back in the early nineties. I also met one or two Jock lads serving in the USMC. It was very odd to see and hear some "Yank" Grunt effing and blinding in broad Jockanese! I never got round to asking them if they had dual nationality as most of the time we were all a tad busy.

Artist

[tonyh762]

Also if you tell them you served x number of years in para reg/ marines or sf, they will make exeptions, even if you are a couple of years over the cut off age. and take you in the army.

Foriegn service counts for nothing when trying to enlist in the USA military.
Age cut off for the regular army has just been raised to 40 years old.
USMC was 28 but they may have been raised as well, I need to check on that.

[81mm]

Foreign service ? brit para/ marine -sf, mark my words they make exeptions.
Artist-- walking into the turkish part of cyprus,with the turkish squaddies on stag looking at you, and then breaking into a cockney accent to say " allright mate hows it going " was a bit strange. They had visited family in turkey, and got collared for national service,--unlucky.

[Artist]

Artist-- walking into the turkish part of cyprus,with the turkish squaddies on stag looking at you, and then breaking into a cockney accent to say " allright mate hows it going " was a bit strange. They had visited family in turkey, and got collared for national service,--unlucky.

Yes I've heard about that sort of thing happening. Once met a Norge Air Force bod in Stordaul (Spelling) who had the most Cornish Cornish Accent you ever heard! His mum was Norge so when he went there to visit his Grandparents they got him to join up!

Artist

[tonyh762]

Foreign service ? brit para/ marine -sf, mark my words they make exeptions..

If you arent ex-US military you are foreign.

Im here in the US, I have talked with many recruiters from different branches im in constant contact with the recruiters here.
They dont consider foreign service.


Anyone wanting info on enlisting into the US army can chat directly with a recruiter here

http://www.goarmy.com/ChatIndex.do

[81mm]

listen tonyh762, i once thought i knew everything till i was told i was wrong? dont know what you do-did, but mark my words, they do make exeptions for certain cases, fact, thats without going into detail, look at some of the other posts, what the f### would people want to spout s### about a serious question.

[DLink011]

My best friend, who recently graduated out of USMC, Is South African and he had to have a green card to join.

I was lucky to have the chance to go and watch him pass out and in the pregraduation ceremony, they mentioned people who werent from USA,and there were about 20 in total from, Kenya, Mexico, Canada, and a few other places cant remember.

he inquired about me joining, and they said I had to be either a citizen or have a green card...(I wasnt interested in joining USMC but just wanted to know the precedure)

I know this doenst help thought I would share my knowledge

Dan

[tonyh762]

listen tonyh762, i once thought i knew everything till i was told i was wrong? dont know what you do-did, but mark my words, they do make exeptions for certain cases, fact, thats without going into detail, look at some of the other posts, what the f### would people want to spout s### about a serious question.

Ok, im not arguing, I dont care.

People can check their own facts out, I have.

[harry hackedoff]

Kiwi, the rules are the rules mate.
They are there to be "got round" and despite what the rules say, prior military service with certain known Units is definately TIC as the old bill would say.

I have a bee in my bonnet constantly whenever we have posts about the Armed Forces of Uncle Sam or Herman or even Kermit, from people who`s only exposure has been the Hollywood version or "some book wot i read" This seems to apply particularly to the American Military and it gives oi the shits.

One difference between the Mob and Elmer`s lot is the sheer scale of it. USMC is at least twenty-odd times the size of our Corps for instance. It matters not to them, they all know what our Green Lid means. Most of the "better" Units in the States are pyramid shaped. With each one, the boys in the top third of the pyramid are very sharp lads indeed. The guys in the bottom two thirds make up the majority and they aren`t w4nkers either. Without them doing a vital supporting role, the guys in the top third wouldn`t get to play with all the sex kit and go on those extended holidays to all those far away romantic places.

Artist, ref the Turks, I heard the same thing happened to a lad from Rochdale once, he`d gone to visit his old granny.

The place?
Buenos Airies
The time?
1982, January

[tonyh762]

Kiwi, the rules are the rules mate.
They are there to be "got round" and despite what the rules say, prior military service with certain known Units is definately TIC as the old bill would say.

I have a bee in my bonnet constantly whenever we have posts about the Armed Forces of Uncle Sam or Herman or even Kermit, from people who`s only exposure has been the Hollywood version or "some book wot i read" This seems to apply particularly to the American Military and it gives oi the shits.

One difference between the Mob and Elmer`s lot is the sheer scale of it. USMC is at least twenty-odd times the size of our Corps for instance. It matters not to them, they all know what our Green Lid means. Most of the "better" Units in the States are pyramid shaped. With each one, the boys in the top third of the pyramid are very sharp lads indeed. The guys in the bottom two thirds make up the majority and they aren`t w4nkers either. Without them doing a vital supporting role, the guys in the top third wouldn`t get to play with all the sex kit and go on those extended holidays to all those far away romantic places.

I hear what you are saying and you guys may know things I dont.
Ive been to recruiters particulary USMC and Army, researched through official and not so official sites, Im part of SF forums here in the USA, have many friends in the services retired and active.
I was just an INF sec cmdr, so i wouldnt get special treatment, but im surprised i havent heard of this, though i was surprised the first time i got punched in the face too and that didnt make it an less real!

I had wanted to join the Paras, but the recruiters told me i was too old at 30 yrs old and offered me REME!

So i find myself here talking to elmer, good blokes but they do make me raise my eyebrows often with the way they do things.

[GD]

US Forces do operate very differently to the BA because of the weight of numbers and the kit they get. UK soldiers are trained to be more independent and to do more tasks whereas the tasking in US forces is job specific.

AFAIK anyone who can get a visa to enter the US can join their armed forces and would be granted citizenship on leaving but that would be time dependent and if you didn't finish your time you'd be sent back to the UK.

I don't see anything strange with wanting to serve in a friendly army, even if it's not commonwealth. Loads of us thought of joining the Irish Army (as well as the Canadian and Ozzie armies) because either the pay or the postings were better.

[tonyh762]

AFAIK anyone who can get a visa to enter the US can join their armed forces and would be granted citizenship on leaving but that would be time dependent and if you didn't finish your time you'd be sent back to the UK.

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Ok, i dont have any knowledge of any secret deals with brit SF pers getting into the US military, But i will tell you all with absolute certainty that this is NOT true!

You cannot enlist into the US military unless you are a permanent resident (green card), this is law!
If you enlist and serve for 12 mths fulltime you become eligible for a special program that will grant you US citizenship.

Again I urge anybody who is interested contact the US army recruiters personally via

http://www.goarmy.com/ChatIndex.do

You will get this info first hand.
Here is the website of the US army, most things you'll want to know you will find here, be warned recruiters here are not known for being totally upfront and telling you everything, plenty of people have ended up being very surprised at where they have ended up, so beware!

http://www.goarmy.com/flindex.jsp

Here is an excellent site with a heap of info about all US military branches, anything you want to know you'll find here.

http://usmilitary.about.com/

[GD]

I have to bow to your superior knowledge. I totally forgot about the Green Card issue.

[tonyh762]

I have to bow to your superior knowledge. I totally forgot about the Green Card issue.

The military are very keen to help, but they are prevented by law in doing so.
Whch unfortunatley leaves one in the clutches of INS (actually USCIS now) which is a nightmare!