Old sweats??

[Twenty One]

RESPECT IS THE WORD.If you expect respect then you give respect! it is a two way flow.Without respect what do you have?NOTHING!
When you join up whether it be Royal Marines or The Paras you are joining a close community,a brotherhood,where you each share the ups and downs of service life,you share your life with people who will be trained to do one of life's dirtiest jobs and that is to fight for your country.You look after each other,you share everything with each other,and most of all:


YOU RESPECT EACH OTHER!!!!!!

[Sisyphus]

Finally, should things not improve in the near future I shall certainly consider leaving the Forum.

Mike

You can't. El Prez won't sign your discharge chit.

Especially as I've just mastered the technique for posting quotes - and it only took me a year!

[lew]

Respect, I think I can speak for the more regular, young non-serving members on this forum such as, voodoo sprout, the count, AGC, cronkilla, a few others and myself. You have our un dieing respect as you have done what we all aspire to do, and are proof that it is possible to do what you want in life, it seems to be only the nobbers that come on here and cause trouble...



lew

[Artist]

I come on this forum to talk to like minded people. I feel happier talking to people who have "been there" or, want to "be their".

Sometimes the problem is such that a PM to what I like to think of as a friend is better than putting it on a open forum read by anyone who has a modem.

My daughter has given me and my better half a lot of grief. A lot of replies both open and PM'ed have helped. Other things have intruded into my life over the past few years. And people who I consider "good friends" have helped me through the sh*t, whether I have met them or not. Most people on this forum would help any other user at the drop of a hat.

But.....I'm getting a wee bit tired of this "them and Us" attitude taken by certain members. I do not care if your 80 or 18. If you take the time to reply to my threads I will reply as and when I can.

CGLEES/RO55 strike me as "all round good eggs" One has just done the ole Commando course, one is 4 weeks into it. They both stink of Marine in my eyes. And if I ever met them I would treat them as fellow Marines, and let them buy the first round. Given time I might even buy them one back! (rush of blood to me head there)

All I'm saying is fair do's for everyone at the start. Ifen they are total Ar*ewipes bin them. (there have been a few) But come on let every dog have it's day People. Walters are sussed out quicker than rocking horse sh*t now. A wee bit less of the "Them and Us" and more of the "Everyone has his/her oppinion" will sort it out. (because I will just not bother if this forum turns into a "them and us" Hate, Hate, etc, etc)

Artist

[Matty]

Hi as a young man wanting to join the Royal Marines I was told about this site where I can get info on the best training methods to join and what exactly goes on in recruitment training. I have met some good people on this site and given them advice as well. We have been exchanging ideas and so on.

Im a 'wannabie','newbie','student''tea martin ginger tosser' 'dont know iam born' the all singing scum because my age is before 30.

Getting very pissed off lads, pissed off with posts like MOREEN CORBETTS,

Moreen, cant remember actually reading a post from a wannabie criticizing an oldie. So are you saying we cant criticize an ex royal just because of that fact .Sorry cant we post on northern ireland topics because we havent served their.Wouldnt it make it much more worth while if you could sway us wannabies to your oldies point of veiw with debate and reason instead of mob tactics. Also cant you just choose to ignore comments you dont like instead of getting worked up by them, something your maturity should of taught you to do anyway.

I agree with Artist why does it have to turn to 'them and us'. I dont understand you choose to read the annoying threads, Good number of you only post when its lynching time. So if you want a worthwhile thread MAKE a worthwhile thread.

And MOREEN Im sure an ex royal can handle a criticism here or there, like if you had read, like you said you have, their responses you would know they can.

Look the last thing I wanna do is alienate, but then again the last thing I want to feel is shunned because i can see a point of view from an unpopular source.

I think quite a few people need to grow up young and old.

[Artist]

Matty

Well said young man. (did not read the Maureen Corbert thread you have mentioned) I trust you do not mind me calling you young man. We were all young once, and you speak as I feel. If I ever meet you face to face I would quite happily listen to your views as they sound like mine.

At the present moment this is a free and open Forum. anyone thinking about joining the Corp or indeed anyone wanting an insight into what makes Marines Marines can peruse at there leisure.

When I first joined the forum I felt that I had found somewhere I would be at home. Until just recently I still felt the same now.....not sure. I have served in sh*tty places along with most of the serving and not now serving forum members and we always made the best of a bad job. PMA ruled.

Artist

[Sticky Blue]

Matty, i think you got the wrong end of the stick regarding Maureens post

Before all the wannabee's criticize the older members, maybe they should remember that they are the ones who forged the path for the rest of you, they are the ones that have lost best friends to whatever conflict came along! They are the ones that have to live with the memories of Northern Ireland, the Falklands, the Gulf I and whatever else was thrown their way. They are the ones that helped change some of the inequitable systems that used to exist - they are the ones that deserve your respect. If you cannot respect their points of view - you don't have to agree with them, just respect them - then "f**k off"!!

The Marine Corps I knew, served with, and lost my beloved husband to, always had a sense of honor, unique to the marines, a special sense of humour, and a special outlook on life. That is one of the aspects that makes them who they are!!

Whether they served 50 years ago or 18 months ago, they are first and foremost marines - excuse us (it was almost 22 years ago since I was in Arbroath) but we are all entitled to remember all the good times we had, before it was politicaly incorrect to enjoy life, have a couple of beers, swing the lamp when we felt like it or whatever else the mood might bring. I still have great respect for all currently serving marines, but it seems from recent posts that you young guys have no idea what being a "Royal" actually means.

I have enboldened a few of the more important points she made that I agree with... you don't have to agree with anyone, just respect their view is probably the most important. I can't spaek for Maureen but can offer my opinion on what she posted. A summary of her post would be:
Some of you think that being a Royal Marine is all about wearing a green beret... there is a lot more to it than that; a whole outlook on life and way of thought, a closeness and kinship with your fellow marines that stands the trial of time and events (i.e. You might be belting the crap out of each other one minute and sitting having a beer and saying "What was that all about" the next). An unwritten code of honesty and loyalty to each other. I might be wrong and some of the younger guys no longer live this way but most of the youngsters I know do...

[lew]

Sticky that type of close friend ship is true of my friends and me at least, although when you play rugby with the same group of lads for best part of your life you end up knowing them better than there own family do, I’m certainly closer to some of them than I am my own family...


lew

[Matty]

Without trying to be patronising, the reply then Sticky is what I consider a worth while example of getting your point across in a civil manner without a gang unleashing a severe bashing.

Now since I have read this forum thats what its been like, in my view,civilised. I cant actually think of a lot of examples otherwise. Unfortunately others dont see it this way and reason 'idealist students' speak fart. Maybe so, maybe they dont see a so called realist view on it, but for me that adds to the good of this forum. You realists can correct them adding to the interest of the forum. This place would be very drone and boring if everyone agreed.And to be very poncy i say without ideals we still would be in the dark ages.

I being brought up as the majority on this forum to show respect to everyone. Especially to my elders and women.Quite an old school father and mother, much older then my mates parents and it showed in our manners and attitude towards strangers and general communication with people. Me and my brothers and sisters always remembered thankyous and pleases and common courtesy rules as i am aware it was the norm in the good ol days. Now being brought up this way it actually goes against my grain not to show respect to people, so not showing respect to ex Royal marines or ex service men in generel does not even come into it even to get one over someone who annoys me on a thread. Im trying to be one so it makes no sense in berating another.I cant say I totally understand yet the unique common ground every royal shares, but am with all I ve got, trying to be part of the best.

So all I say is if some thread does get an idiotic post lets be civilised and ignore it instead of a witch hunt, which is always followed by
'Mods how did it get this bad?'
exagerating a problem that quite simply,probaley was not a big issue.

[harry hackedoff]

Well said Artist totally agree. Same to you, Matt( ooh, young man)
Some of Maureens post was taken out of context.

[Sticky Blue]

Part of the difficulty of any forum is that there is them wot can rite gud and them wot don't rite such good england.
It is often difficult, with the written word to understand what the author is trying to say. The words may seem clear when they are being written and still seem just as clear when read back. Put another pair of eyes over the same text with a different brain understanding the words and they will take a different slant on what the author is trying to convey... you can give 20 students a piece of text and then ask them what the author was trying to convey and you will get 20 different answers like:

"I think the author was making a statement on the social, ecological, political and financial conditions in Britain during the 18th century"

"I think the author was talking about a run ashore with his mates in 18th century Pompey

"

[Matty]

Point taken Sticky,

Can I ask what the mods think of the forums posts these days.?

And the way you guys want it to go ?

Also is it becoming pants?

I think its as good as always been.

[Guest]

Well, can i first say, that I`ve not posted on here for a while, due to pressures at work, but also, i too have become saddened by some of the posts on here. (even some of mine) But, in defense of the wannabees etc, I have always thought the gulf between the "serving members" and the "out to pasture" members is too great, and we have a chance to bridge that gulf, by encouraging the future "Royal Marines" who post on this site, and maybe when they eventually get to CTC, they may encourage others to log on, give us their views on life in the "modern Corps", and hopefully we can eventually bridge that gap. I think we all know who the time wasters are, and that can, and has to some extent, been sorted by the moderators. I was proud to have served my Queen and Country, but more proud to have served "OUR CORPS".

[Sticky Blue]

Bootneck... PM sent.

Can I ask what the mods think of the forums posts these days.?

The same as they have been although there have been more 'flamers' and idiots arouind recently.

And the way you guys want it to go ?

Personaly I would like to see a members side for serving and ex serving members of the forces. Whether it be a pay area or invitation area I don't mind but an area free from some of the idiots where our self discipline, sense of humour and corps d'esprite will mean that we don't need to moderate it.

Also is it becoming pants?

No... at times it is becoming annoying with new members not using the search function (PRESSUPS!!!!!!) but have a look here and tell me it is pants... viewtopic.php?t=4042&highlight=

[Sisyphus]

I have always thought the gulf between the "serving members" and the "out to pasture" members is too great,

I feel quite the opposite. The bond between serving and out to pasture members seems strong to me. However, there is a [huge] gulf between those two and [some] of the youngsters who post on the forum.

But there's stacks of useful info for the wannabees which, hopefully, they can make good use of. Just needs a little more thought on both sides before we sound off.