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General discussions on joining & training in The Parachute Regiment.
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:roll: LOL why do very uneducated people come on here and type total rubbish
It's because most of the numpties posting this shite are all EXREG. :roll:
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JTP wrote:9.18 is the absolute minimute to join the Paras you should try and do it in less than 9.08 because if you only train to 9.18 you will not be ready when they tell you to run 1.5 mile with a 30 - 40 pound backpack on.
Hurr, I wish. Sandy, if our cadre ask very nicely, can our P-Coy consist of just a 1.5 mile tab? Please?

JTP: I don't know how absolute it is, but I'm fairly sure the 1.5 run time is between 9.18 / 9.30. This is a qualifying time though - they won't make you do it with weight before you have started training. Tabbing is progressive throughout training, and you will be going a damn sight further than 1.5 miles, carrying a 36lb bergan, weapon, and occasionally fighting order (webbing) which weighs a bit, and is a pain. Also; boots.

By the way SO19, the tinfoil hat is very fetching :wink:
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Oh ok thanks for setting me straight and also for the accurate info. :D
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thenewkid17 wrote:
Paraintraining wrote:i have to agree with jumpfreak. Get yourself on that insight course and they'll let you know what you need to be able to do and get you in the right frame of mind.
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im on it for the 18th of this month cant wait

i went to the gym to day and after 20 min on the treadmill at 10.5 km/h i felt like being sick and i had bad pains in my sides my trainer says its normal.
Great thing about the insight course is that they tell you how much more training you will need to do before you are ready to join. Works on a 3 light system. Green = good to go; Amber = little more training required; Red = lots more training required. I think that's how it worked anyway so don't quote me on it :wink:

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Post by sky ninja steve »

why pay to go to a gym when theyre not as good for you as actually going out and running around the roads that god gave us and get twice as fit and feel the beni]efits sooner
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sky ninja steve wrote:why pay to go to a gym when theyre not as good for you as actually going out and running around the roads that god gave us and get twice as fit and feel the beni]efits sooner
It's called cross training mate. Although defo agree when it comes to running. Treadmills are shite, they do all the work for you!

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You mean you work twice as hard on a treadmill. It's impossible to find suitable form and rhythm, and you are constantly aware you may fall off the machine.
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Dont forget there is technique to running! The more you run the more efficient you get, nothing prepares you for running like running does! At the same time cross trainers / cross training are awesome for improving all round endurance and strength, getting over injuries, preventing injuries!
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_chris wrote: @ Spence, I've always planned meals around balancing carbs, protein and fat, why do you reccomend alternating carbs/fat? Carbs are needed to keep your energy stores up and blood sugar etc. is what I had always thought and so I planned my meals to always include all 3. I'm not disagreeing as such, but trying to understand alternative ways of doing things.

Sorry for the not so swift reply mate.

The reason I suggest alternating carbs and fats in meals has alot to do with (endogenous) insulin. Insulin is very anabolic. It's responsible for carb and amino acid delivery to the muscles for recovery and growth. Insulin shuttles nutrients into muscle cells, however chronic insulin elevation will cause the muscles to become insulin resistant and refuse to take up nutrients. On the other hand, adipose tissues will continue to take up nutrients at a rapid rate, and will lead to fat gain. So you need insulin, but you need to control it. And when you eat to promote insulin surges, you've got to be sure that you have the ideal profile of macronutrients (Proteins Fats, Carbs etc) in your blood to ensure that this insulin surge leads to muscle gain and not fat gain.

Now meals containing just protein and carbs do produce a synergystic release of insulin, causing high blood levels of insulin, carbs and amino acids, however the macronutrient ratio is just right to promote anabolism in which the body takes all those nutrients into the muscle cells for protein and glycogen synthasis.

To ensure that you are not promoting chronic insulin elevation, which would lead to reduced insulin sensitivity, it is advised to alternate these protein/carb meals with protein/fat meals. Taking in 30% of each major class of fatty acids (polyunsaturates, monounsaturates, saturates) is a good way of including essential fatty acids which are so important to health, performance and a favorable body composition.

On top of all that, protein plus fat meals will provide energy and amino acids without causing large, lipolysis-preventing insulin spikes. In addition, after fatty meals that contain no carbs, the body oxidizes less carbs (more carbs are stored and retained in the muscle as glycogen) and burns more fat for energy. So basically you'll be burning fat for energy and storing carbs in the muscle after such meals. Which is another bonus.

Hope that sheds some light on my original comment.



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Cheers for replying Spence, that seems makes sence, I've never really counted myself as a nutritionist of any sort so have always just eaten meals in a basic fashion of carbs, protein and fat at each.
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ADDiction wrote:You mean you work twice as hard on a treadmill. It's impossible to find suitable form and rhythm, and you are constantly aware you may fall off the machine.
No mate, they do half the work for you, because the tread carries your foot backwards when in contact; rather than your muscles propelling you forwards as you must do running on proper ground.
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Sarastro wrote:
ADDiction wrote:You mean you work twice as hard on a treadmill. It's impossible to find suitable form and rhythm, and you are constantly aware you may fall off the machine.
No mate, they do half the work for you, because the tread carries your foot backwards when in contact; rather than your muscles propelling you forwards as you must do running on proper ground.
To all those who are still in school or have just left, i hope you listened in Physics :wink:

Also, Spence, f'kin bang on advice mate. 8)
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Makes sense Sarastro, but it still feels twice as hard to me.

Making sure you stay on the machine, aswell as at the front of it just creates to much of a fuss, the run is never smooth and it upsets my concentration. It completely ruins my form and I end up battling through the run. I guess they are fine for lighter runs though.

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Hey im new on here erm just got a few questions really recently i was with drawn from my TA cadre due to critial ligament damage and i was just wondring what sort of training i can do whilst being injured, because im realy skinny and found it hard during my cadre and was wondering if anyone can offer advice.
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