Prince William on his way to Sandhurst

[anglo-saxon]

Surely this is the biggest Freudian slip of all time!!

Well all will be reviled when Princes Harry and William get out of training

Sneaky

Agreed! Freudian indeed!

All my family dislikes the royals but they have all had military careers, guess I got it from them (obvouisly I wouldn't tell others this feeling e.g. careers officer, I'm not that stoopid).

So, you come from a long line of people who lack integrity, then? Surely, you don't intend to begin your career with a bare faced lie? Not only a lie, but a calculated deception merely to obtain your personal gain! If you lie about that, what else will you lie about for further personal gain? If you are dishonest about that, what else will you be willing to be dishonest about? It's types like you that end up on the receiving end of a little "Regt. discipline" after proffing from their muckers or some such! The worst one I saw was CASEVACed from Cyprus in '85 and spent several months in CMH. This was his own "mates" did it to him, mind! The bottom line is, if you can't be trusted to have a little inegrity out the outset, where is the basis for your mates placing trust in you along the way, especially when THEY all did the right thing?

I for one cannot believe you have the gall to come on this forum and spout that you have no time for the Royal Family, but want to be in the military and so will happily lie during a solemn oath for your personal gain. That is absolutely dispicable and I firmly recommend that you not only take a long hard look at your intent to join the military, but also at your personal values in life. Do you or do you not want to be a man of substance? If so, shake your bloody head and sort yourself out, because I think you just blew your wad around here, sunshine!

By the way, in many states the penalty for lying under oath is around four years in prison and in some it is death! Perhaps that gives you some indication of the seriousness of what you have said.

Uh, did I say that out loud? Where's me tourettes pills?

[Doc]

Just re-read this thread....

Prince Andrew is Commando trained, Charles is Para Trained.

Prince Phillip served as a RN officer in WW2 and was in the thick of it.

Alot of "minor" Royals have also been there and done it.

LetsRoll, I would wait out until the UK becomes a republic and all services, Corps, Regiments etc drop the "Royal" bit from their names. I for one hope this will never happen. I see from your profile that your a waiter, so I suppose on a waiters forum your busy slagging off Prince Charles for not being silver service trained.

You aint done anything military yet so stop slagging off people who have done more, whatever their social standing.

My suggestion............Emmigrate to France.

[Wee Willy Winkie]

tut tut lets.. touched a nerve you have. why did you expect when you publicly state that you dont like Royals...on a military forum?? Britian has the best and proudest history of any country FACT (in my opinion anyway ) if they do nothing else in your opinion at least they serve as a reminder of how GREAT Britian is. w.w.w

[Para_Hopeful]

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[Worthers Original]

Faking the oath.



People don't fight for Queen and Country, they fight for their own survival and that of the fellas around them. Some people may very well take the words of the oath seriously but I'd wager that most give them not a first thought and take it because it is part of the process and wouldn't be bothered either way if it was dropped like the Queen's shilling.

The Royals do play a role in our society, a role that does help define a part of who we are as Britains. I'd never class myself as a Royalist but I've seen first hand the very real, very positive effect having a Royal family has on ordinary people and that alone justifys their continuation in my opinion. Being a Republican shouldn't be a problem in the Armed Forces but accepting a Queen's Commission would be interesting. It probably won't be long till there are two oaths as there are for the religious part or they might go the way of marriage vows and let you write your own.

[Para_Hopeful]

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[Worthers Original]

Don't worry Para_H, I wasn't replying to you specifically.

I'm sure if letsrole's Royal family views were that strong then he wouldn't take the oath at all, let alone want to serve in Her Majesty's Armed Forces. Slagging off someone else's military career is certainly a bit off but who would expect that Royals* would actually be where the bullets were flying? I know I wouldn't.



*the Windsors, not the RM

[anglo-saxon]

My suggestion............Emmigrate to France.

Thanks for that, Doc. I am now mopping scotch off my keyboard!

[letsrole]

Seriously guys, the queen is out dated, and you lot have to remember the royal family are humans like the rest of us, they are not gods why the hell should we bow down to them? If we were living 300 years ago, I would agree to the royal family as they were worth a lot and never put a foot wrong. Now look at them, they don’t serve Great Britain very well...Divorces, Charles carrying on with Camilla and Charles allegedly bumping Diana off, not exactly role models I would want.

Our empire has/is slowly been/being given back so there is no need for a queen or the royal family anymore as they are not so vital! They are too expensive to keep running, out of our pockets (the taxpayers), why do they get paid so much? Couldn’t the money be used for a productive cause such as the NHS? Charles gets £4 million a year for doing what? You say about tourists bringing money into the country...it goes straight into the royal families’ pockets! I really don’t get it, why do they have to have so much money spent on them?

I swear by Almighty God that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, her heirs and successors and that I will as in duty bound honestly and faithfully defend Her Majesty, her heirs and successors in person, crown and dignity against all enemies and will observe and obey all orders of Her Majesty, her heirs and successors and of the generals and officers set over me

I’d quite happily serve the queen and obey orders if it will get me in. I wouldn’t go shouting my mouth off or hold a big sign outside Buckingham palace and argue against them I’d keep it to myself, and like some of you have said when the shit hits the fan your not going to give a shiny sh!te about the queen, your going to be fighting for yourself and the guys around you.

I'll serve God, the royal family serves God... we are all the same side you know. My uncle is a high-ranking officer and he was invited to Buckingham palace to meet the queen at this party, he declined it, he started his career with a lie and seems to be doing all right for himself. You say we lack integrity? Not really we just don't necessarily believe in them.

The sooner the ravens leave London Tower the better.

[Doc]

Can I ask what branch of Her Majesty's armed forces you are aspiring to join Letsrole?

[Artist]

Lets just hope it aint the Life Guards Doc!!

Artist

[Doc]

Im more concerned hes trying for the Corps or the RN, in which case we may have to submit an act of parliment that allows him to remove the crown from his insignia, excused saluting officers that hold the Queens commission, and the Royal Marines/Navy will have to be renamed to ....

Britannic Republic Maritime Regiment of Foot / Britannic Republic Floaty thing

[Para_Hopeful]

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[letsrole]

I aspire to join the royal marines.

Doc, I have to say it, you are a bit of a hypocrit(e?). You said yourself joining the RM's isn’t all about fitness, fitness, fitness… to us wannibies we see this as the only thing to pre-joining. But when ever we post something about fitness, such as a programme, you go and say it's not really important and you need other traits. You, yourself say there are many variables to joining, such as humour, determination and watching out for your oppos., to which I agree. This must mean it can't be all about the queen, the queen, the queen (although it does play a big part (the same as fitness) but not the only part) Others see different things in different lights. It’s just an opionion.

Good night.