Army taking over Rapier duty

aes69 · Post by **aes69** » Wed 06 Apr, 2005 6:19 pm

With all due respect to those serving members of RAF Reg, if you want something special, join Para Reg or RM. RAF Reg are a bog standard infantry unit who are struggling to find roles for their troops. I know this because my unit is augmenting RAF Reg and fighting for some of it's jobs.

Anyone (virtually) in the army can apply for P Coy, so why are II Sqn special? Because they say they are, and who in the RAF are going to argue? Highly paid, extremely clever techies, I think not.

Anyway, give rapier back to the army, give aircraft to the RAF and just leave the RM to do their own thing, don't want to upset the booties!

rockapemk1 · Post by **rockapemk1** » Wed 06 Apr, 2005 6:45 pm

Ah..lets play spot the snow drop from Leeming.

Granted you say that they arent anything special however your basic infantry soldier does not have half the training of you average gunner.

RobT · Post by **RobT** » Wed 06 Apr, 2005 6:53 pm

With all due respect to those serving members of RAF Reg, if you want something special, join Para Reg or RM. RAF Reg are a bog standard infantry unit who are struggling to find roles for their troops. I know this because my unit is augmenting RAF Reg and fighting for some of it's jobs.

You haven't thought enough about what you've just said, why was the Regt formed for? Because you can't always rely on the Army. Same goes for rapier, theres some complete biff's in the Army and their handed millions of £'s worth of kit..

The blue RAF can't drill. I dont think there is any Guin sqn's in the RAF that could take over from QCS, should that get binned too then?

rockapemk1 · Post by **rockapemk1** » Wed 06 Apr, 2005 6:58 pm

Good point there.

Although does this mean now that when the Regiment take an airfield the RA will have to deploy with them as well to offer GBAD?

RobT · Post by **RobT** » Wed 06 Apr, 2005 7:02 pm

Dunno, but they have no concept of air operations so expect some shitty BDZ's in the near future!

Hostage_Negotiator · Post by **Hostage_Negotiator** » Thu 07 Apr, 2005 2:31 am

rockapemk1 wrote:Ah..lets play spot the snow drop from Leeming.

Granted you say that they arent anything special however your basic infantry soldier does not have half the training of you average gunner.

Point./1 He's not from Leeming he's from TACTICAL POLICE WING!!!
Nobody was comparing basic infantry to Royals or Para Regt! There is a difference! II Sqn (groundborne) are not special, they don't do "P Coy" they do their own version of it!

"The blue RAF can't drill. I dont think there is any Guin sqn's in the RAF that could take over from QCS, should that get binned too then?"
Rob T get a life !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
The senior instructor of QCS when formed was C/Cgt G ******* of 2nd Batt Scots Guards.
just as a point have you ever seen the RAFP Dog Display Team in action, no,... thought not!!

rockapemk1 · Post by **rockapemk1** » Thu 07 Apr, 2005 8:52 am

Bad night HN???

Flintham Block1 · Post by **Flintham Block1** » Thu 07 Apr, 2005 9:00 am

Personally, I would far rather see the rocks retain GBAD, we have given far too much over to the Army as it is and the buggers are like SERCO - once you let a few in they take over everything!!! QCS do a superb job and are very good at it but lets be honest the do pracise all bloody day and I do not agree that it is a job that can ONLY be done by the green bit of the RAF. As for comparing training to the average infantry soldier I do not think it is in any way fair to say the the average rock is better trained - more diverse maybe!!! Don't get me wrong, the Rocks are good at what they do and many if not most never try to promote the "elite" equivalent of Paras/RM bollocks that some of the kids do.

Hostage_Negotiator · Post by **Hostage_Negotiator** » Thu 07 Apr, 2005 9:32 am

rockapemk1 wrote:Bad night HN???

Yeh, how did you guess?

rockapemk1 · Post by **rockapemk1** » Thu 07 Apr, 2005 9:50 am

I can see the appeal of II Squadron, however they are nothing more then an infantry unit with para capability, would never compare them to the para's as the training and ethos is completely different.
If im lucky to get in (2007 if im on a Nov IOT next year) I will just be happy if there is still a Regiment for me to join regardless of what type of squadron it is or what it does, should that be throwing myself out of a C-130 or foot patrol around an airbase.

macster · Post by **macster** » Thu 07 Apr, 2005 4:29 pm

Hostage_Negotiator wrote:
just as a point have you ever seen the RAFP Dog Display Team in action, no,... thought not!![/quote wrote:
I have a few times. Once or twice at STC and then one lucky night at the BZN bop.

One particular one springs to mind - “Kirsty”, I believe? A rather long shaggy blonde mane, if I remember rightly.
A fine example of the breed!

Hostage_Negotiator · Post by **Hostage_Negotiator** » Thu 07 Apr, 2005 5:41 pm

Brings a whole new meaning to the term "Handle her" oops my mistake I meant "Handler"

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat 09 Apr, 2005 6:49 pm

The only thing 'special' about II Sqn is that they have one of their members in court for the illegal killing five Iraqis.

Hostage_Negotiator · Post by **Hostage_Negotiator** » Sun 10 Apr, 2005 12:51 am

Devils A, you just know you'll get a response to that!

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun 10 Apr, 2005 5:14 pm

Hostage_Negotiator wrote:Devils A, you just know you'll get a response to that!

Its in the name.

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