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lozhop wrote: It dries much quicker than it states on the label and the brush tends to go all thick and stodgy whilst still trying to get the painting done. I have not yet found anything that can remedy this.
Anyone got any ideas as to how I can prevent this from happening to my brushes?


As for using a hair dryer on painted surfaces I wouldn't recommend it unless you are after a "distressed" finish.
(You will be very distressed if the missus catches you!! :lol: )
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Loz, I generally ditch the brushes, I can`t be arsed to dhobi them, or save them if they go realy hard, they make decent chisels, as long as your not going to be using them on concrete etc, but they do get floor boards up quite easily.
Re the hair dryer, i`ll leave well alone then, don`t want to get distressed anymore do I? :o
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Hmmm, a lot of very intresting and valid point's by you all.

But coming form an engineering workplace like myself, You would all have to admit that correct surface preperation and selection of the correct primer's must have an effect on drying time.

As well as allowing the primer to dry for the correct time scale (applying top coat on a still drying primer will drasticly increase the drying time).

Also, what do you people think about these hardening additives you can get for paints, think it was a north american guy who came up with the idea (pick up lots of useful info in my job).

I find the additves ok for an engineering work enviroment, but find the additves can spoil what can be a an enjoyable way of passing the time!
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Additives are OK for civilian use but if used incorrectly on armoured vehicles they can cause the paint to flake when you are hit. I fully agree with the preparation being the most important thing, I always insisted the lads strip right back to bare metal and use the correct primer and if they whinged I would just make them do it again.
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bootneck.
Is it possible to use a hair dryer to speed up the process? i only ask because the sooner the paint drys, the sooner the wife can put the next coat on.
That reminds me when i was preping the paintwork in the bedroom.
Time was cracking on so i needed to finish it.
I was using one of those heat guns to remove the paint.
My missus happened to be drying her hair with a hair dryer as she was going out.
Well imagine my surprise when after putting the heat gun down to scrape the paintwork,when picking up the gun noticing that the gun had changed into a hairdryer.
O dear if i had the hairdryer where was my heat gun.

It was a good two mins before my missus realised her hair was drying quicker than normal.
Still,good job i was stripping the paint because the smell of burning hair is rather unpleasant. :) :wink:
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Quite a few pertinant points have been made ref drying times.

Loz, the hairdryer method as you describe is most suitable for Water colours.

Shoulders, all curling tongues do is crinkle the paper. The gas fueled tongues cause this problem.

A quick blowjob on the stubborn wet bits works wonder mind you.

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Very good point Loz

A quick blow job I find is the best when little things such as a build up of gouache interfere with the overall effect of the painting.

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lozhop wrote:I suppose you'd have to very careful though so as not to blow your paint all over the paper, thus ruining your work.
But all isn't necessarily lost - you could always enter it for the Turner Prize. Sounds a dead-cert winner! :-?
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you could always enter it for the Turner Prize
I've never seen any painting's in the turner prize before (certainly none that have won).

Normally find their some silly drunk who hasn't made the bed or entry's in a glass box.

Maybe if you did one entitled 'paint drying in formadahide'
Could be on to a winner with that one.
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Ah, yes, but this year's was a potter! Who used paint!
And it was dried in a kiln at c. 1000 deg C. Now THAT's what you call drying!

As opposed to the other method where it's just painted on and and dried at ambient temperature [ can't remember the term - the missus is into ceramics and would know but is 'indisposed' at the moment - drat!]

It's only a matter of time. And a hair-dryered water colour has got to have the potential! Just imagine the mess that could be created. :-?
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I first got interested in paint drying whilst serving on the Grey Funnel Line.

Splash a bit on here, wait an hour, splash an another bit wait an hour. Endless fun.

Give Royal a chipping hammer, a gurt big paint brush and a pot of Pussers Grey and he was as happy as a parrot with a giant bag of birdseed. (the red admar took some getting used to mind)

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Loz

Jack in all innocence would give us chipping hammers a brush and a pot of paint, point at a rusty bit and issue those famous words "Sort it out Royal"

An oppo of mine decided to chip and paint this crane jib thingy sticking up on the signal deck of Fearless.

One hour later the cry of "Timber!" was heard. He chipped it so much that it fell over the side and landed on the deck below. Jack was not amused. (we were in tears at the bollo*king he got from the chief Yeoman)

He just said "but Chief it was ready to go anyway"

"Thats not the fu*king point Mne --------, what the hell do you think you are a fu*king lumberjack?" the Chief screamed.

"Sorry Chief it was all I could think of to say at the time"

After that the Captain made it plain that Royal was not to be let loose with chipping hammers anywhere near his bridge. Unless under strict supervision. After that we spend many happy hours watching paint dry.

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Now Loz,you are really talking.
Sea breezes are to do with tidal currents which in turn are due to the gravitational pull of the moon.
Therefore one has to calculate where the moon will be in comparison to the earth when painting at sea.
There is a book im sure that shows tables to help in this matter.
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I can remember on either Albion or Bulwalk when we went on board and the taxi drivers (Jack) asked us to work part of ship.

So royal is detailed off to paint this wall (bulkhead to sailors) so the chief says paint that wall Royal and you can finish for the day.

So royal not wanting to waste any time picks up the can of paint and throws the contents ie the paint at the wall, which of course as you know on board those boats the walls have stacks of writing on them telling you what is on the other side (like The sea!!)

Royal then picks up his paint brush and starts spreading it all over as quick as he can.... Mr Chiefie was not a 'appy Jolly Jack and shouted rude words at poor Royal who then left the area to lie on his bed (bunk to Jack)

I don't know how long that paint took to dry cos it was quite thick on the floor (deck to Jack) and we were in the tropics like sailing from Singapore to Aden. So I suppose it would have taken longer cos of the extra humidity and heat etc

The best result of it all was that we were not asked to do any more painting so really we could not enter into this forum telling you how long it takes paint to dry

I do not have tihis problem at home (one I have no nasty Mr Chiefies telling me what to do) but I use a lime wash on the outside of the house which does not take more than a few moments to dry... as for painting inside well that is womens work like mixing concrete is

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