America wants us to give back the Falkland islands

lew · Post by **lew** » Thu 12 Jun, 2003 11:58 pm

The Americans can stick that right up there jacksey

may18 · Post by **may18** » Fri 13 Jun, 2003 12:03 am

To be honest with you

considering 98% of americans polled consider brits atm to be their "closest ally"

and an american friend said some hotels were flying british flags alongside their own in the US

I cant see the US having voted for this,

voodoo sprout · Post by **voodoo sprout** » Fri 13 Jun, 2003 12:31 am

I agree, if nothing else US politicians wouldn't dare do something like this which could seriously sour their vital relationship with the UK; though I can easily understand the sub-US American countries backing Argentina on this. Luckily though, they matter not a jot

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USARMY_ · Post by **USARMY_** » Fri 13 Jun, 2003 5:14 am

I doubt very seriously the US delegation voted in favor of this. I also doubt very seriously most Americans know where the F.I. are "sigh"

Andy O'Pray · Post by **Andy O'Pray** » Fri 13 Jun, 2003 5:50 am

The statement of solidarity was proposed at the OAS meeting by Argentine Deputy Foreign Minister Jorge Taiana and seconded by Brazil, Uruguay, Chile, Bolivia and many other delegations.

There is absolutely no mention as to how the US voted, or if they even voted at all. Canada is also a member of the OAS and also no mention on how they voted.

The only countries mentioned are all Latin American. It is also worthy of note that the story was reported by, Agence France-Presse.

Aye - Andy.

The JaCkAl · Post by **The JaCkAl** » Fri 13 Jun, 2003 11:33 am

USARMY you spelt "favour" wrong

I just searched the net for this subject, and found nothing. So the probabilities are that it's a load of rubbish.

may18 · Post by **may18** » Fri 13 Jun, 2003 12:24 pm

The JaCkAl wrote:USARMY you spelt "favour" wrong

I just searched the net for this subject, and found nothing. So the probabilities are that it's a load of rubbish.

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_pag ... 02,00.html

theres a few links around, not many though

Archie · Post by **Archie** » Fri 13 Jun, 2003 12:59 pm

Ah yes that's right, America considers us to be one of her closest allies.

We all remember the generous support they offered in the matter of F.I.

They have always helped and supported us in our efforts to secure peace in N.I.

And then there was the remarkable speed with which they came to our aid in 1939.

And what about all those wonderful ships and equipment they lease lent for that conflict, every one a gem.

Or not.

barryc · Post by **barryc** » Fri 13 Jun, 2003 1:43 pm

Now now Archie, fairs fair, the US did offer assistance for the FI recovery and made the latest air to air missiles available (yes probably at a high cost) which pilots thought made a lot of difference. There were also rumours of a short term lend/lease on a carrier capable of carrying conventional fixed wing a/c, but even if we had got it we no longer had pilots capable of conventional landings on a carrier, crab air strikes again.

As for your other points, granted.

Barry

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri 13 Jun, 2003 1:45 pm

I haven't heard the USA making any noises about this, in fact, I would favour being on the side of the Yanks everytime than being on the side of those Euro donkeys. Yep, they the USA, are/have been slow in coming forward to help us Brits in our hour of need and as much as I might criticise Dubya and his Administration but I damn well know which side of the fence I'm on..........!

Archie · Post by **Archie** » Fri 13 Jun, 2003 1:52 pm

You're right Barry, but it's all the U.S. phoney holier than thou crap that gets under my skin.

As has been said, the actual discussion here may be bogus, but a good many points have been raised.

Some folk may think I am anti American which is simply untrue. I am however anti anyone who says one thing and then does another, Noraid, Contras, Yadda, yadda, yadda.

Apart from that I don't care because my old troop JE64 are having a reunion this weekend at RM Poole, and we will put the world to rights over a beer or several, that much is certain :drinking:

Archie · Post by **Archie** » Fri 13 Jun, 2003 2:00 pm

Blame the French, now you're talking.

Their mothers were hamsters and their fathers smelled of elderberries....

jonboy · Post by **jonboy** » Fri 13 Jun, 2003 2:40 pm

Dont get me wrong here because the French pi*s me off most of the time to and yes I would like to shout them down over this aswell, but watching a program on the Falklands (uk history), after the french found that the argies were to use the exocet missiles, they stoped the surply and from pressure from Britain they actually helped us stop them getting there hands on more of them through secret talks ('stringing them along') with help from Mi6.

USARMY_ · Post by **USARMY_** » Fri 13 Jun, 2003 5:57 pm

Despite my opinions on the matter the USA has laws that prohibited us from helping you guys in the FI, these laws are set out in the Monroe Doctrine.

Here are some links

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=U ... gle+Search

In regards to NI, have we been asked to interven, do you guys really want US intervention, also are you certain my government is not helping in a somewhat clandestine nature?

Considering the awful shape the US military was in up untill say 1941 I don't think we were in any position to help ourselves much less anyone else since we had troops training with broom stick handles and pretend tanks.

Last as far as the lend lease, we had a war looming in the Pacific Ocean with Japan. We needed every ship we could get our hands on for our own survival, so I think we are all fortunate the US found any assets to lend.

But all this stuff is ancient freaking history I mean I was only one and two years old in 1982... I'm thirsty Who wants a beer?

Twenty One · Post by **Twenty One** » Fri 13 Jun, 2003 6:05 pm

Talking about Exocet missiles, has anyone seen the latest Exocet available to the Argentinians.Apparently it is supersonic and extremely deadly to shipping.I saw something on one of the Sky channels the other day and it looks very impressive.I wonder if the UK will buy from the French or do we have something similar.

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