Training Queries any help greatly appreciated........

[_chris]

1.5 Miles : 8min 32Sec
3 Miles : 16:08
6 Miles : 30:00 Dead

Take a look at your figures properly, they dont add up. You do 1.5 miles in 8:32, yet 3 miles in 16:08, simple maths at least one of the 1.5 miles in your 3 miler is faster than your 1.5 mile effort. Same with your 6 miles.

[Stacka83]

I suppose, mind there are alot of 35 year olds who will out perform me fitness wise. Im guessing my running times are average for my age.

Which brings a whole slant on things, how fit should a 24 year old be? In respect to training for the RM.

[Stacka83]

1.5 Miles : 8min 32Sec
3 Miles : 16:08
6 Miles : 30:00 Dead

Take a look at your figures properly, they dont add up. You do 1.5 miles in 8:32, yet 3 miles in 16:08, simple maths at least one of the 1.5 miles in your 3 miler is faster than your 1.5 mile effort. Same with your 6 miles.

Of course they wont, after 1.5 miles i pick the pace up to a quicker running speed. Is called fartlek i think, but it improves all round CV and is good training for bleep test too. You should always very speeds when running distance becasue your body sits in a rut. (and CPO Casewell my recruiting Officer, fully supports this type of training)

The 6 miler is done indepently, and is my best time for distance, saying that i feel i could probably improve.

[Stokey_14]

Which brings a whole slant on things, how fit should a 24 year old be? In respect to training for the RM.

I'm guessing fit enough to pass the required tests

If those are accurate running times though I’m guessing you wont have a problem... running 6, 5 minuet miles for 6 miles is more than enough and impressive by most peoples standards.

There’s always exceptions to the rule, for distance running the age of the top athlete seems to be higher than sprinters or boxers etc. There’s a local bloke I know of who I see running every day, my mates dad knows him and apparently he’s been running since his childhood and is now well into his 60's clocking 30+ miles a week, admittedly he isn't braking any land speed record but even so! A lot of 60 year olds couldn't walk that distance weekly!

Focus on improving your fitness and abilities do the best you can.

All the very best

Stokey

[Tartan_Terrier]

1.5 Miles : 8min 32Sec
3 Miles : 16:08
6 Miles : 30:00 Dead

Take a look at your figures properly, they dont add up. You do 1.5 miles in 8:32, yet 3 miles in 16:08, simple maths at least one of the 1.5 miles in your 3 miler is faster than your 1.5 mile effort. Same with your 6 miles.

Of course they wont, after 1.5 miles i pick the pace up to a quicker running speed. Is called fartlek i think, but it improves all round CV and is good training for bleep test too. You should always very speeds when running distance becasue your body sits in a rut. (and CPO Casewell my recruiting Officer, fully supports this type of training)

The 6 miler is done indepently, and is my best time for distance, saying that i feel i could probably improve.

I'm very impressed that you get faster and faster the further you run, however I'm not very impressed at all with your spelling and grammar.

For example the word 'I' is always capitalised!

Fartlek means 'speed play' and means varying the speed as you run, not just increasing the speed, that's called acceleration!

[hardcorps]

O, so I'm pretty slow seen as my best 3 miler is 20.58.
I was confident about my fitness, now I'm worried. I run 3 miles every monday and saturday and run 5 miles on a thursday. I also do a circuit every day except wednesday and sunday. Is this too little? Any advise would be appreciated.

Aptitude test: Passed
Interview: Passed
Medical: Passed
PJFT: 9.40
Eye Exam: Passed
Aquiant Day: 16 Jan

[Stokey_14]

O, so I'm pretty slow seen as my best 3 miler is 20.58.
I was confident about my fitness, now I'm worried. I run 3 miles every monday and saturday and run 5 miles on a thursday. I also do a circuit every day except wednesday and sunday. Is this too little? Any advise would be appreciated.

Don't be worried mate, keep working at it and when the time comes dig out blind, just keep improving little by little, your time is by no means bad, if your confident you'll perform better.

I’ve made the mistake before now of putting to much pressure on my self before a race, making my self sick before now, I don’t know why I used to be like this, I still get very nervous even before a relatively small race, just proud I guess, but it certainly didn’t help me that day, I had my worst run of the cross country season felt like crap (probably due to the loss of fluids etc) after that I just try my best to relax into all physical challenges and find I enjoy and perform much better in them that way.

Stokey

[AJtothemax]

O, so I'm pretty slow seen as my best 3 miler is 20.58.
I was confident about my fitness, now I'm worried. I run 3 miles every monday and saturday and run 5 miles on a thursday. I also do a circuit every day except wednesday and sunday. Is this too little? Any advise would be appreciated.

Aptitude test: Passed
Interview: Passed
Medical: Passed
PJFT: 9.40
Eye Exam: Passed
Aquiant Day: 16 Jan

Don't worry about anything. Your effort is the key to getting faster, that is all.

Don't be put off by someone telling you they can do this and that in such a time etc. Let them do what they want, focus on yourself and you'll be fine. No need what so ever to panic or get worried because someone can run a distance faster than you.

Keep training hard and the progress will come alright. I would suggest running Interval training on your 3milers. Practise hill sprinting, do some bodyweight squats (by that I mean without any additional weight attached to you at all, just your bend your legs in squat form and repeat) before you do your 3 milers so you can can used to running quicker with fatigued legs, but don't do it all the time. It worked very well for me and it may do so with you also.

[hardcorps]

Thankyou for the advice, I will take it on board and start trying even harder. My aquaint day is next wednesday so I will have a chance to find out if I am ready or not for the PRMC. Thanks again.

Aptitude test: Passed
Interview: Passed
Medical: Passed
PJFT: 9.40
Eye Exam: Passed
Aquiant Day: 16 Jan

[_chris]

Hardcorps, something your not doing in your schedule at the moment, and I would consider putting in in terms of your running fitness, is a shorter, faster run. Your doing just under 7min/mile at the moment over 3 miles, so try once a week (additional if you can fit it in) doing say 6 min/mile over 1.5 miles. Use this day to run fast, but for a short period of time, warm up first before this run. This will usually help an improvement in your run pace for most people, train fast to race fast. Your longer run will make sure you have sufficient endurance, your faster runs will increase your speed, and your 3 milers will consolidate the effort.

1.5 Miles : 8min 32Sec
3 Miles : 16:08
6 Miles : 30:00 Dead

Take a look at your figures properly, they dont add up. You do 1.5 miles in 8:32, yet 3 miles in 16:08, simple maths at least one of the 1.5 miles in your 3 miler is faster than your 1.5 mile effort. Same with your 6 miles.

Of course they wont, after 1.5 miles i pick the pace up to a quicker running speed. Is called fartlek i think, but it improves all round CV and is good training for bleep test too. You should always very speeds when running distance becasue your body sits in a rut. (and CPO Casewell my recruiting Officer, fully supports this type of training)

The 6 miler is done indepently, and is my best time for distance, saying that i feel i could probably improve.

Its not called fatlek, so basically what your saying is you don't put 100% effort in for your 1.5 miler, or your 3; thats not good training. And don't say off course, its not something that usually happens, if you took the mile world record and multiplied it by 26.2 you'ld get a time a considerable bit less than the world record for the marathon. If you're doing distance you run faster than short distance, you don't run faster, all that shows is your not putting your best effort in at shorter distances. If you can do 6 miles in 30 mins you are at least capable of 3 in 15, but realistically about 14 mins. I would be very interested to see your marathon times, first ever sub-2 hours? You would obviously get faster at the end.

[Tartan_Terrier]

Before this goes any further, may I suggest that you look at this thread.

http://www.mfat.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17341

Regards
T_T

[hardcorps]

OK, I'll add a fast 1.5 miler to my training and let you know if it helps. Thanks for your help.