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Army to SBS?

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The SBS only take applicants from crack infantry regiments (Paras, Black Watch etc.), unlike the SAS, who'll take anyone from Royal to Army Catering Corps (as long as they're good enough :wink: ), which does bring up the question of difference of experience between the two.
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big_al
You could not be more wrong.
Anyone and I repeat, anyone, from the RAF, RN, and the Army Catering Corps can join the SBS - IF! they pass the Joint Selection course! (They may even let Royal Marines join!!)
It may not be the best way but it is THE way.
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Book I read was a bit old. Sorry lads
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you still have to pass the all arms commando course first which weeds a few out
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Sorry 42, but I don't think you do. The SAS/SBS Selection course is sufficient - I think.
I agree that they should do - but I don't think it is compulsary.
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the majority of guys from the navy that have gone through are put on the all arms first. i think it depends on your background and experience.
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When I was a Matelot you had to do All Arms before SC Aquaint.

At the same time the only Army lads venturing toward SB were 59 Divers and such like. All change now though from recent updates. I think everyone does SF aquaint via Hereford then SF selection then peel off into either SAS or SBS. I even think that SB recruits who fail the SB selection tests can opt to go to Hereford instead............Whos your Daddy!! :lol:
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Hello Doc,

Just to add my two penneth - lads going for SB don't have to have completed the CC, All Arm or otherwise.

Furthermore everyone does SF aquaint at Hereford - everyone does hills AND jungle 'together' - and then peel off.

Also it's only SB guys and Booties who'll tell you that any SB failures can 'opt for Hereford' - this is not true. You fail on SB Continuation - you get RTU'd - end of.

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Cheers Stabbo, most of my info is years old and not first hand, only via lads doing their pre-joining medicals.

I was being cheeky about Hereford getting binned SB ranks though :lol: :P
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Hi Doc,

It probably used to be the case - i don't know.

Thing is most lads that fail SB Cont. fail for a good reason - and that usually means they're deemed 'unsuitable for SF work' full stop.

Probably doesn't stop them sticking their chit in a couple of years down the line though with current manpower issues being what they are!

A teddy thrown in a corner even once seems to cost you these days!

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Hi CptStabbo!

Just a question. Do you have any inside knowledge?

My information says - that all do the SF selection. Then all do the SF course. After that the guys who want to be SBS then "peel off" and do the SBS side of things. As this is quite different to the SAS way, why shouldn't anybody who fails the SBS, revert to the SAS?
This is not to denigrate the SAS - but to point out that the SBS live on and in the water and not everyone is suited to that environment.
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Hi Mr Beaky,

I'm not sure what you'd call 'inside knowledge' - surely all knowledge comes from within? (Just pullin your plonker).

I pwomise on my scouts honour that i'm not telling you porkies though - If you are attempting UKSF Selection, you are deemed to be going for one of x number of streams (SB, 22 and associated Reserve RiffRaff at 4kph, or 264 and the rest of the RiffRaff at 3kph).

Just because you've passed TW at a certain speed, doesnt allow you to pick and choose which Unit you can go off to join.

Imagine - all the Stabbos asking to go off to H with 264...

I spose it's not beyond the realms of possibility that one could say "Nope - i don't like the water - it's too cold and far too wet. Not for me. Can i have a bash at the old 'easy' mountain bits and pieces?"

I'm sure they'd be on the next train up.

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