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Posted: Fri 30 Apr, 2004 6:46 pm
by Guest
Posted: Mon 07 Jun, 2004 11:15 pm
by shemulie
82nd- Have to do Airborne School, piss easy as anyone can go through the school.
101st- Air Assault School: this one is actually hard, a lot to learn as far as the skills for transportation and the such.
Rangers: Ranger School, very physically demanding and hard... but that doesn’t necessarily make it good. They seem to lack the initiative and do things the hard way for the sake of it... the epitome of HOOAH!
The idea is all combat arms officers go to Ranger School to spread the knowledge. Most officers go through jump school at some point too, and a few extra go to Air Assault.
As far as their SF, Green Berets, I'm sure you can join right after finishing whatever specialty school as enlisted. Quite disturbing.
BUT- there is a huge ideological difference between US SF and regular. The SF community is much closer to our line of smart thinking initiative, while the rest of their army is the gung ho HOOAH. This is why many old school general despise Special forces, it doesn’t fit their Gung Ho total war mentality, which is exactly why it took until Vietnam for the US Army to for a permanent sniper school.
Posted: Tue 08 Jun, 2004 12:18 pm
by Padre
I read on another forum that Ranger School was tough but doable.Robin Sage the green beret selection is a few steps up from Ranger school or so I `m told.Guessing I`d say Delta selection is probably the hardest since it`s 98% based on SAS selection. Navy SEAL BUD\s is probably up there as well,sneaky you might know something about this.
Posted: Tue 08 Jun, 2004 7:49 pm
by sneaky beaky
Navy SEAL and Buds is hard because it's based on physically demanding tasks and "bullying", for want of a better term. A bit like SF selection in UK at the moment. But when they have got through that they do go onto more intelligent training - and they are good.
Sneaky
Posted: Mon 23 Aug, 2004 3:00 am
by tgace
This is kind of a "friend of a comrade, knew a guy who went through Delta selection" thing so take it with a grain of salt.
Part of what I heard was that the typical route to delta was Airborne-Ranger-Special Forces-Delta.
The selection process had an odd (for American Military) lack of any supervision. Recruits were assigned barracks and in them was a chalkboard. At "O-Dark thirty" the lights come on and there are instructions on the board like "load a rucksack with 90lbs. of gear (scale and weights nearby) and fall out on the parade deck". There they were put on trucks and taken out to the field where they are told to conduct individual land navigation over 26 mi. of rough terrain in a set ammount of time. Anybody over thr time limit is cut anybody caught on paved roads is cut. No yelling, hazing etc. but an eerie sense of being constantly monitored.
Posted: Mon 23 Aug, 2004 10:05 am
by bigbart
I recently read about part of Navy SEAL training called "hell week"... for a week the recruits are put through continuous physical training of the worst kind, and they are allocated 4 hours of sleep. For the whole week..
Posted: Mon 23 Aug, 2004 10:52 am
by stever
another more recent book is "inside delta force" by eric l. haney
isbn number 0-0552-15022-3
its just as good as the charlie beckwith book

Posted: Mon 23 Aug, 2004 6:56 pm
by sneaky beaky
The first part of SEAL training is called "Hell week". It is designed to sort out the men from the boys. I think they might get more than 4 hours of sleep in a week but not much more.
Sneaky
Posted: Mon 23 Aug, 2004 8:21 pm
by neil1955
Maj Beckworth spent two years in that Welsh place with a boathouse as 2ic before setting up delta,draw your own conclusions.

Posted: Mon 23 Aug, 2004 10:41 pm
by tgace
sneaky beaky wrote:The first part of SEAL training is called "Hell week". It is designed to sort out the men from the boys. I think they might get more than 4 hours of sleep in a week but not much more.
Sneaky
Actually "Hell Week" is more of a graduation ceremony for BUD's...they put up with a number of weeks/months of PT and conditioning before they cap it off with hell week...then its onto tactical/weapons training.
Posted: Mon 23 Aug, 2004 11:02 pm
by Cliodna
neil1955 wrote:Maj Beckworth spent two years in that Welsh place with a boathouse as 2ic before setting up delta,draw your own conclusions.

That'll be the Welsh city of Henffordd then??

And here I was thinking I'd lived in England all these years...how silly of me.
Posted: Tue 24 Aug, 2004 11:08 am
by Seven
"Hell Week" is actually week 6, I think. After that there's still ground combat and survival training. Hell week is definetely not graduation. Check out
www.thesealteams.com
Posted: Tue 31 Aug, 2004 8:54 pm
by neil1955
Allways let someone else look at the paper thingy with the squiggly lines and pretty colours,

Sorry at the time I was talking to someone else about the old Parachute reg Battle School Derring Lines BRECON and how it changed into the School of Infantry, talking and typing at same time, like chewing gum and walking upright can get confusing at times like when drunk anyway its not far off. Can you still use a longbow to kill em in the grounds of cathedral big curch thing? or is that another urban myth. Anyway most of my time in that part of the world was spent down the road a bit at a place called Pontralis that's supposed to be in England to but the locals sound a bit suss to me. No star yackie da.

Posted: Tue 31 Aug, 2004 9:07 pm
by Cliodna
indeed you can get the old longbow out, but its only on a particular day in April when the full moon is due, and we're all shyters on cider

Least said about pontralis the better....now that lot really
are pointyheads!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When they're not busy cutting timber, they're busy doing things with sheep
I can see where the confusion with Wales came about...at least Brecon is a tad more civilised

Posted: Tue 31 Aug, 2004 9:50 pm
by neil1955
Not in the S Siddens it was sawdust on the floor to soak up the blood and other bodily fluids deposited theron, ah the good old days.
