Mike wrote:TK421... seeing that I invited you to participate in this and that you responded to my thread, here is my response.
You say that your men went in to the hospital not knowing if it was occupied by friendies...... What!!...... Your intelligence bods were unaware that they could have annihilate a friendly hospital?... Shame on them.
So you did know that the hospital was friendly or you didn't?....... What ever.
So you always take movies of your antics... nuff said about that....what every time, must be nice for the lads to show the families back home! Who was calling who ARROGANT?
So when they all got back to SAFETY, who was it that noticed that no one was shooting back at them and that the trip was like a high school holiday outing?....
Then who was it that said it wasn't(like a holiday) and suggested that the American press who, just by chance, were about to wake up the US of A, should have a story of doing dare where a beautiful young US Army female had been rescued, ney valiantly saved from hoards of fiendish Iraqis?
You must think we are all as soft as you, especially when, following the news breaking, the media interviewed Kith and Kin saying how grateful thay all were for the Rescue and all those yellow ribbons?
Come on Lad even your President accepts that it was all a sham..... take a tip from him. Wind your big leather neck in and admit it was all a sham that was unfortunately detected
Nothing personal......you do understand?
Oh, and yes, our Chaps are better trained, at least you do accept that.
Uh...ok. Mike how old are you? Seriously.
I realize that arguing on the internet is like the special olympics- Even if you win you're still retarded. But what the hell, this is kinda fun...
Annhihalite a friendly hospital? Believe me, the SEALs who went in there are fully capable of distinguishing between noncombatants and hostiles. They could have easily have gone in there and hosed the place down with bullets, but they didn't. That's why they sent them instead of some regulars. SOF's train for that sort of thing. This was a case of hoping for the best and being prepared for the worst. Thankfully, it turned out for the best. And yes, our intelligence "bods" (bods?) are not all seeing all knowing. You've seen too many movies.
It wasn't a friendly hospital, who said it was? It was an Iraqi hospital in a war zone that wasn't yet controlled by allied forces. When did I, or anybody for that matter, say it was a friendly hospital? There just weren't any Iraqi forces actually inside the thing(fortunately). Why does that disapoint you so much? I'm glad there wasn't a great deal of bloodshed in the rescue operation. I said that it's been reported in the US media that the Iraqi doctors there did their best to take care of her and for that I, and I think all americans, are gratefull to those doctors.
How is filming things to keep a record "arrogant"? Filming is usefull for all sorts of things. Try and put you blind nationalistic pride aside for half a second and actually THINK about it. Ok maybe saying that "everything" is filmed is a bit of a stretch but many things are, especially the important and high profile operations.
The Rangers out on the perimiter around the hospital had some, admittedly, limited exchanges of fire with the enemy. It wasn't Saving Private Ryan or anything but there were enemy in the area. The Marines who launched the diversionary attack in the area also had contact. It wasn't a "school outing". Were you there? Or were you just sitting on your butt behind the safety of your computer at the time? Find someone who was actually there and who put their lives on the line and tell them that!! Or you can just continue to insult people from the safety of your computer. Your choice.
Yes, CENTCOM announced the rescue. Americans, oddly enough, like to hear about it when our POW's are rescued. Imagine that. I guess on your side of the pond you just don't care about your POW's? I'm sure she got some extra attention because she's a she, that's human nature. The media did most of that.
Sham? An American soldier who was being held by the enemy was rescued. We are happy about that. It doesn't matter to us how "hard core" the operation was or that the troops involved weren't knee deep in hand grenade pins. We're happy for her and her family! What's a sham about that. Do you have a sister? Imagine it was her.
I didn't say your guys were better trained. I said their training was better suited for certain types of things. I'm not saying one is better than the other, we're just different. Different capabilities and different mindsets. You're better at some things and we're better at others. However, we do have guys who are very good at the whole 'hearts and minds' thing, like Army Special Forces and the Civil Affiars units. Unfortunately, they are too few in number. Jeez, again with the juvinile "my dad can beat up your dad" crap. Grow up.
... and don’t know that it was British lads that did it 
