Censorship at Militaryforums.co.uk

[Sarastro]

You have committed a crime and so have militaryfourms.co.uk for allowing it to be edited in such a way as to appear that it was I who wrote such nonsense.

Ahahahaha!

Once again, yochanan's superb grasp of reality comes into play. Pray, what crime have they committed? Libel? Libel in an individual case requires demonstrable damage to one's personal reputation. How exactly does editing a post you made under an assumed name damage your real name?

Or as Hyper pointed out, how about the fact the disclaimer specifically provides for this situation?

...or the fact that to win this case, you would be setting a precedent over the internet in UK law so vast and powerful that no judge would ever consider doing so even if you were right.

Please do take it to your 'solicitors' (ie Lionel Hutz). Never know, he might just take it on to try for the record of Most Legal Precedents Broken In One Case.

I wish I was his solicitor cause he must be loaded if he takes legal action over simple stuff like this.

Not if he's no win no fee!

[SINGLENURSE]

I would like to know who edited my previous post. You have committed a crime and so have militaryfourms.co.uk for allowing it to be edited in such a way as to appear that it was I who wrote such nonsense.

I have cached the offending material and will be taking it to my solicitors in the morning. But now that it has been brought to your attention you are under a legal obligation to remove the defamatory post.

Big mistake guys. I will see you in court over this one.
Does anyone else like Scouting for Boys, by the way?

Remember to Point out to your Solicitor you came here Slaging the Armed Forces & The British Public are Sick of f@#k t ar d s like you Slating our Armed Forces so for once they retaliate & give as good as they get but you dont like people giving you the same as you give them Oh & You Stole other Posts off other sites & Passed them off as your own.. & Stole someone else Wifii or what ever the hell its called so as you could gain access to this site under Bogus Names to try cause trouble Remember to tell that to the Judge

[Sarastro]

and that they themselves cannot even present evidence to show that they are not terrorists, then surely you must see that they are?

...can you present evidence to show that you don't have a penis growing out of your forehead?

Or here are some easier ones.

Can you present evidence to show that aliens don't abduct midwestern US farmers and anally probe them? No? OMG ALIENS ABDUCT MIDWESTERN US FARMERS AND ANALLY PROBE THEM!

Can you present evidence to show that tomorrow morning at 0752 GMT+1, the world will explode? No? OMG WE ONLY HAVE 12 HOURS TO LIVE!

Can you present evidence to show that any ridiculous, unverifiable thing I feel like inventing isn't true? No, you can't, you don't even know what it is yet. Well, according to you that means I must be God - I think it, and it becomes True. Thank you yochanan, for being the Prophet of the Second Coming, have a cookie etc etc.

Alternatively, how about you read up on a little principle called Falsifiability.

[Holger Danske]

Inform MI something on the guy...
I'll bet Guatanamo orange looks good on him..

[quigly]

Can you present evidence to show that aliens don't abduct midwestern US farmers and anally probe them? No? OMG ALIENS ABDUCT MIDWESTERN US FARMERS AND ANALLY PROBE THEM!

Can you present evidence to show that tomorrow morning at 0752 GMT+1, the world will explode? No? OMG WE ONLY HAVE 12 HOURS TO LIVE!

You forgot about the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Alternatively, how about you read up on a little principle called Falsifiability.

Don’t mock me.

And whatever sick individual edited my post could you please refrain from attributing your perverted fantasies to me. There are groups that can help you with your problem.

[Hyperlithe]

What's the matter Squiggles, can't handle a bit of banter?

[Sarastro]

I did forget about the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Chalk him/her up too.

Oh, and since you failed to present evidence that Falsifiability isn't true, therefore your proof that British soldiers are terrorists must be false, eh? Glad we could clear this one up.

[druadan]

Well I have to say, up until the last page or so, that's the best thread I've read on here for a while.

Whilst I can't say I agree with much of what Yochanan says, nor think much of him lifting such chunks from uncited sources, he at least attempts a reasonably structured argument in better than average English. And it's brought out some good counter-arguments. Yes some of it can be taken as insulting to us and ours, but we suffer far worse.

This sort of debate can only be healthy on what is a forum, so unless it gets personal, I say let it lie, and keep to the topic. As I said, I don't agree with him, but I don't think he's particularly venemous; he's got an opinion, the majority don't agree - this is what forms interesting debate, however one-sided the audience may be.

I haven't seen his edited/removed posts, so I reserve the right to change my opinion

[druadan]

Having just read the DU thread: Quigly/Yochanan, no you're not popular here, but if you want me and no doubt others to continue reading your distinctly odd views (to my mind at least) you're going to have to start backing up your statements with some verifiable figures.

Oh no, not at all. I am not really concerned about the Law, I have stayed within it. My real concern is that some seasoned killer from the forces will come kill or torture me. I know a lot of soldiers are known for their short tempers and psychological problems.

This is one example. Do you really think 'seasoned killers from the forces' are in any great abundance? And that those that are go around randomly killing or torturing British (or any) civilians just because they're rubbed up the wrong way? These sort of comments are what make most ignore your more well thought out posts. I'd also like to see the sources for the figures you post in the post, so that we can just have a quick look and say, "fair enough, fairly reliable source," or "what a load of sh*t." Like I said, I've enjoyed reading the discussion here, but it's not affected my personal opinions one bit as you've offered little to no proof of your allegations, and some are little more than ill-disguised insults.

[quigly]

Welcome druadan, it is finally nice to have a reasoned post to read (I am not saying all posts have been unreasonable, but the vast majority certainly have)

I haven't seen his edited/removed posts, so I reserve the right to change my opinion

The posts that have been edited were not edited due to any objectionable content. They have all been edited to insult me, making statements and attempting to attribute them to me. One edit was particularly vile. I am not the only one to have been subjected to this kind of defamation on these boards, a post by “thou_shalt_not_kill” was also edited. I know this as he is a friend of mine and he brought it to my attention.

One post had a link to images of deformed babies, victims of DU. The link was edited so that it pointed to the Teletubbies site.

The topics that were deleted were no ‘worse’ than the posts you have read on this thread. One was simply a short summary and link to a mainstream news article about 15 Iraqi civilians that had a bomb dropped on their heads by the Americans.

The other was simply a short list of music videos from YouTube. I have had no explanation for any of these deletions.

I'd also like to see the sources for the figures you post in the post, so that we can just have a quick look and say, "fair enough, fairly reliable source," or "what a load of sh*t."

If there are any facts or figures you would like sources for please let me know I will be only too happy to provide them for you.

Salaam

[harry hackedoff]

Druadan, these people populate the net and contribute nothing. They move from forum to forum causing arguement and disharmony and derision till the members get fed up and then they move on. Usually, they start an arguement straight after signing up to deflect attention from the real aim. In this case the popular yochanon/thou shalt not post shite/quigly etc, accused the mods of censoring his posts. Not true. We don`t need to censor posts. Having a "strange" opinion isn`t against the terms and conditions. Slagging off the moderators with spurious claims isn`t against the terms and conditions and neither is being a total dick head. Check this out mate,
http://www.teamtechnology.co.uk/troll.htm

Or this one which contains some excellent advice
http://www.flayme.com/troll/
And I Quote
How can troll posts be recognised?
· No Imagination - Most are frighteningly obvious; sexist comments on nurses' groups, blasphemy on religious groups .. I kid you not.
· Pedantic in the Extreme - Many trolls' preparation is so thorough, that while they waste time, they appear so ludicrous from the start that they elicit sympathetic mail - the danger is that once the group takes sides, the damage is done.
· False Identity - Because they are cowards, trolls virtually never write over their own name, and often reveal their trolliness (and lack of imagination) in the chosen ID. As so many folk these days use false ID, this is not a strong indicator on its own!
· Crossposting - Any post that is crossposted to several groups should be viewed as suspicious, particularly if unrelated or of opposing perspective. Why would someone do that?
· Off-topic posting - Often genuine errors, but, if from an 'outsider' they deserve matter-of-fact response; if genuine, a brief apposite response is simply netiquette; if it's a troll post, you have denied it its reward.
· Repetition of a question or statement is either a troll - or a pedant; either way, treatment as a troll is effective.
· Missing The Point - Trolls rarely answer a direct question - they cannot, if asked to justify their twaddle - so they develop a fine line in missing the point.
· Thick or Sad - Trolls are usually sad, lonely folk, with few social skills; they rarely make what most people would consider intelligent conversation. However, they frequently have an obsession with their IQ and feel the need to tell everyone. This is so frequent, that it is diagnostic! Somewhere on the web there must be an Intelligence Test for Trolls - rigged to always say "above 150"
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We`ve had our fair share over the years, some quite harmfull. This current infestation comes under the heading of a "playtime troll" Comes onboard, rattles cages, pisses everyone off and then thins.
Sad socially inept, typical billy-no-mates.
But enough about Wholley

[Wholley]

Sad socially inept, typical billy-no-mates.
But enough about Wholley

I resemble that remark!
My attorney's Messrs. Sue Grabbit and Runne have been informed of your gross accuracy so you can expect a libel suit shortly.
Inspector Knacker of the Yard will also be investigating as there may be criminal overtones to your honest appraisal of Wholley.
So just watch it buster.
I have the weight of the law behind me.

[harry hackedoff]

I have the weight of the law behind me

I was going to have a word about that Paul
Have you tried Weightwatchers

[Wholley]

I did consider weightwatchers but then I saw what they did to Sarah Ferguson.
Anyway I'm not fat,I just grew into my height.
Unlike some

[Holger Danske]

Hey Y-Q.
I think you will have better luck with your 5. column insertion on www.militaryphotos.net.

A much bigger audiens...