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See I told you he'd know. Voters might turn out more this election, I can't remember an election with this much shit slinging. I still don't see the point in this election, both suck. Bush is low IQ, and Kerry the metrosexual without a clue. Seems FDR's New Deal just isn't selling like it used to.
Let them call me a rebel and I welcome it, I feel no concern from it; but I should suffer the misery of demons were I to make a whore of my soul. (Thomas Paine)
Hi Frank,
Thanks for the info. It cannot be changed unless government security says so (like in 2001, it was held in Dec). The organisers (American Society for Microbiology) arrange this ICAAC conference every year between Sept-or October and usually a certain number of hotels are allocated for the ICAAC attendees.
We have to go unless we have valid reason our abstract does not get accepted. It is a prestigious meeting in our microbiology discipline with 15-18,000 scientists and physicians attending from all over the world, the lectures are excellent, and we collaborate on joint projects with different groups etc plus we get to see all the latest exhibits from the biotech/pharma companies so, its informative. Its starts on 30th Oct-2nd Nov.
I am so disappointed.
My friend and I were going to do some sightseeing on the last day !
I will make a note of the no-go areas. I have the lonely Planet guide to Washington DC as well. If there are any queries I may ask your advice if you don’t mind.
Thanks for the info. It cannot be changed unless government security says so (like in 2001, it was held in Dec). The organisers (American Society for Microbiology) arrange this ICAAC conference every year between Sept-or October and usually a certain number of hotels are allocated for the ICAAC attendees.
We have to go unless we have valid reason our abstract does not get accepted. It is a prestigious meeting in our microbiology discipline with 15-18,000 scientists and physicians attending from all over the world, the lectures are excellent, and we collaborate on joint projects with different groups etc plus we get to see all the latest exhibits from the biotech/pharma companies so, its informative. Its starts on 30th Oct-2nd Nov.
I am so disappointed.
My friend and I were going to do some sightseeing on the last day !I will make a note of the no-go areas. I have the lonely Planet guide to Washington DC as well. If there are any queries I may ask your advice if you don’t mind.
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Frank S.
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I figured it couldn't be changed...
Well, maybe Reston, VA could have been an alternate (about an hour and a half from DC (you no doubt remember the 1989 incident at a Reston facility involving monkeys carrying ebola).
But with 15 to 18.000 attendees, plus the elections, Reston hotels would very likely not have been able to accomodate anyway.
Not much to see there, it has an 'industrial' feel of sorts to it: designed with open spaces, manicured lawns and both long and tall buildings housing corporations, it feels very boring.
Anyway, the bad news about sight-seeing: several monuments in the Washington DC mall are undergoing renovation which probably won't be complete by December. Throughout the area, expect also fences and barriers erected by security to block vistas and camera shots.
However, the various museums which make up the Smithsonian Institution should be very satisfying, even if you've had the occasion to visit them in the past.
Here's a map from the Smithsonian website, it gives you a general idea:
All these sites are well within walking distance from one another.
The Smithsonian website, for more info:
http://www.si.edu/
Well, maybe Reston, VA could have been an alternate (about an hour and a half from DC (you no doubt remember the 1989 incident at a Reston facility involving monkeys carrying ebola).
But with 15 to 18.000 attendees, plus the elections, Reston hotels would very likely not have been able to accomodate anyway.
Not much to see there, it has an 'industrial' feel of sorts to it: designed with open spaces, manicured lawns and both long and tall buildings housing corporations, it feels very boring.
Anyway, the bad news about sight-seeing: several monuments in the Washington DC mall are undergoing renovation which probably won't be complete by December. Throughout the area, expect also fences and barriers erected by security to block vistas and camera shots.
However, the various museums which make up the Smithsonian Institution should be very satisfying, even if you've had the occasion to visit them in the past.
Here's a map from the Smithsonian website, it gives you a general idea:
All these sites are well within walking distance from one another.
The Smithsonian website, for more info:
http://www.si.edu/
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Wholley
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Man this is a tough election now, I hate Kerry, like Edwards, I think Bush would be okay if he fired some folks and I can't stand Cheney.
What does Edwards think of guns and confederate flags?
What does Edwards think of guns and confederate flags?
Let them call me a rebel and I welcome it, I feel no concern from it; but I should suffer the misery of demons were I to make a whore of my soul. (Thomas Paine)
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Wholley
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Whatever Kerry tells him to think.
Kerry really wanted McCain as he is anti-gun and really does not like Bush.Edwards being from SC is pro-gun,so I can see some problems
there.This seems to me to be a payoff to the lawyers who support Kerry.
Tort Reform?Forget it if these two are elected.
It'll be Sue,Grabbit and Runne all over again.
Wholley.
Kerry really wanted McCain as he is anti-gun and really does not like Bush.Edwards being from SC is pro-gun,so I can see some problems
there.This seems to me to be a payoff to the lawyers who support Kerry.
Tort Reform?Forget it if these two are elected.
It'll be Sue,Grabbit and Runne all over again.
Wholley.
I never pictured Mc Caine as anti-bullet launcher, but I didn't like his military voting record, he always wanted to nail our budget and raises.
Edwards from the little I hear of him is a decent guy. Kerry is a dork and Bush should have fired some folks long ago. Cheney is a slug.
I never thought Kerry would have made it this far, he was a joke for the last couple of elections when people mentioned his name. I really thought the most powerful foriegn lobby in DC would have gotten Leiberman in the race.
I don't know, I'm thinking hard about this one and just see them all as dirt bags from the Oligarchy.
This is what I think
1. Stop being nice to the enemy
2.Stop thinking the enemy likes us
3.realize we are living in a communist country, becoming more so all the time since the communist victory in WW2
4.Stop believing that the lie known as the Bill of Rights applies to us
5. Stop playing their game, just don't vote, pull the kids from their schools that preach their trash and hate God. Stop paying taxes early, make them wait all year until the deadline and then pay.
Pay off your house and cars and keep them and buy only thing you need.
Stop watching TV, don't use the USPS, e-mail, private mail, ect.
If we all did this in mass they'd have to change step.
But that is my pissy little idea. But what do you expect? I got street cameras pionting at my house, can't even cash winnings and do an internet transfer without homeboy security looking at the account, my kid got seperated from me and shook down by TSA at the airport because I forgot to remove my inhaler from my pocket, they x-ray my sprite and want me to drink it, take off my shoes ect.. I mean terrorizing a 2 yearold because dad missed his inhaler is b/s. No one plays games with my kid.
Poor kid was crying, didn't know what was going on as they took him from me and into another cube.
I won't live like this for too much longer, I'll leave. This government allows illegal aliens to run amuck, unknown . But they shake down American citizens and their children. Tax us without our consent.
Frank said they didn't read the Declaration of Independence this year, I wonder why? Probably because the US is looking like King G more and more.
I'm sick of it. I don't need nor want another mans protection and damn be the man who ever lays his hand on my son again. It was frightening for the boy, abusive in manner, demeaning, insulting and disrespectful and under the definition of the law kidnapping.They also were meddling in his diaper, is that SOP? Or just jollies for the TSA pigs?
I answer to God, screw the rest.
Edwards from the little I hear of him is a decent guy. Kerry is a dork and Bush should have fired some folks long ago. Cheney is a slug.
I never thought Kerry would have made it this far, he was a joke for the last couple of elections when people mentioned his name. I really thought the most powerful foriegn lobby in DC would have gotten Leiberman in the race.
I don't know, I'm thinking hard about this one and just see them all as dirt bags from the Oligarchy.
This is what I think
1. Stop being nice to the enemy
2.Stop thinking the enemy likes us
3.realize we are living in a communist country, becoming more so all the time since the communist victory in WW2
4.Stop believing that the lie known as the Bill of Rights applies to us
5. Stop playing their game, just don't vote, pull the kids from their schools that preach their trash and hate God. Stop paying taxes early, make them wait all year until the deadline and then pay.
Pay off your house and cars and keep them and buy only thing you need.
Stop watching TV, don't use the USPS, e-mail, private mail, ect.
If we all did this in mass they'd have to change step.
But that is my pissy little idea. But what do you expect? I got street cameras pionting at my house, can't even cash winnings and do an internet transfer without homeboy security looking at the account, my kid got seperated from me and shook down by TSA at the airport because I forgot to remove my inhaler from my pocket, they x-ray my sprite and want me to drink it, take off my shoes ect.. I mean terrorizing a 2 yearold because dad missed his inhaler is b/s. No one plays games with my kid.
Poor kid was crying, didn't know what was going on as they took him from me and into another cube.
I won't live like this for too much longer, I'll leave. This government allows illegal aliens to run amuck, unknown . But they shake down American citizens and their children. Tax us without our consent.
Frank said they didn't read the Declaration of Independence this year, I wonder why? Probably because the US is looking like King G more and more.
I'm sick of it. I don't need nor want another mans protection and damn be the man who ever lays his hand on my son again. It was frightening for the boy, abusive in manner, demeaning, insulting and disrespectful and under the definition of the law kidnapping.They also were meddling in his diaper, is that SOP? Or just jollies for the TSA pigs?
I answer to God, screw the rest.
Let them call me a rebel and I welcome it, I feel no concern from it; but I should suffer the misery of demons were I to make a whore of my soul. (Thomas Paine)
Hi Frank
Thanks ever so much for that map.
I will defininitely take a peak at the Smithsonian Institute.
I also hope to see those famous Korean and Vietnam War Memorials and the Washington Monument.
No interest in that big white mansion though.
Hi Whitey,
Good to see you back with your dry, witty and controversial demeanour.
What is a metrosexual again ?
BTW.. Kerry's VP nominee, Edwards is a potentially a stronger candidate than Bush's VP. Whitey you are right this election will be tight, unless Jeb Bush can conjer up another trick in Florida.
Thanks ever so much for that map.
I will defininitely take a peak at the Smithsonian Institute.
I also hope to see those famous Korean and Vietnam War Memorials and the Washington Monument.
No interest in that big white mansion though.
Hi Whitey,
Good to see you back with your dry, witty and controversial demeanour.
What is a metrosexual again ?
BTW.. Kerry's VP nominee, Edwards is a potentially a stronger candidate than Bush's VP. Whitey you are right this election will be tight, unless Jeb Bush can conjer up another trick in Florida.
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Frank S.
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Marina, you're very welcome. Incidentally there may be some festivals to check out in the area by the time you visit.
Silver Springs (North West corner of the DC 'diamond') has folk festivals pretty much throughout the year, but the calendar of events will only be published later for the fall season.
Whitey, I think both the 2nd amendment and the Declaration of Independence are critical documents, particularly at this time. I do believe we'll continue to see gun control in more stringent forms in the future. After the election, things will become more authoritarian. As to the Kerry side, even if there was a will to roll-back some of the nonsense created by Ashcroft, it doesn't appear realistic. As you know some of those laws have been signed without being read. And these people profit from it.
Your incident at the airport is disgusting: I see now that it's not only foreign visitors, which was bad enough.
Silver Springs (North West corner of the DC 'diamond') has folk festivals pretty much throughout the year, but the calendar of events will only be published later for the fall season.
Whitey, I think both the 2nd amendment and the Declaration of Independence are critical documents, particularly at this time. I do believe we'll continue to see gun control in more stringent forms in the future. After the election, things will become more authoritarian. As to the Kerry side, even if there was a will to roll-back some of the nonsense created by Ashcroft, it doesn't appear realistic. As you know some of those laws have been signed without being read. And these people profit from it.
Your incident at the airport is disgusting: I see now that it's not only foreign visitors, which was bad enough.
Last edited by Frank S. on Fri 09 Jul, 2004 5:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I don't know, but I hate them. My dad hates them, my grandfather hated them and I think great grand dad fought them.What is a metrosexual again ?
Good to be back, I missed Wholley and Frank, Harry, you and even Artist. Stix is cool in my book as well.
This election isn't much of an election. Too bad it couldn't be Kerry and Mc Caine vs. Edwards and Bush, then we'd have no contest. I'm no Bush fan, but Kerry just is not a American in spirit, he'll further corrupt the judiciary. Cheney and his thugs got Bush locked in a bad spot, Bush should can them and make a deal with Edwards, because at this point if things don't change, things won't change.
Let them call me a rebel and I welcome it, I feel no concern from it; but I should suffer the misery of demons were I to make a whore of my soul. (Thomas Paine)
The man is getting out of control Frank, my wife had been cleared and was standing right there, they could have wanded him imo and handed him off, but they didn't. Then afterwards some military dickhead says to me "That ain't nothing, If it helps prevent another 9/11" I told him to STFU tough guy, and he did. My wife is a stupid broad because she thinks it is all neccissary as well. I gave the man 10 of the best years of my life and this is the reward. My boy is 2 1/2 he didn't understand, he was shaking and crying and I had to sit in a chair while a cop stood by and a TSA fag had me undo my pants, turn pockets out get wanded and patted down. People in the line were bitching about it . Especially the old ladies, I get pissed just thinking about it.
I won 25 bucks on this internet thing and was having it dds's into my account when I got a homeboy security site block saying I had to fill out their page before I could make the deposit. 25 bucks? You can barely get through Mc Dildo's with 3 people on 25 bucks.
I won't fly anymore unless I have to. And to think I was stupid enough to want to go play contractor for these ass munch nerds.
I talked to some Brits who were going to the same concourse and they couldn't believe what they saw, they said it isn't that bad security wise until you hit the USA, home of the free!
Some folks can't see why I get so pissed, but I was raised to believe the stuff happening here only happened in other countries and that is why it was cool to be American.
If this is what it has come to, then whats the point? Canada? Jeff Davis was happily exiled in Canada, my ancestors migrated down from there, could be time to go back.
If all our political system can produce is Kerry and Bush for us to chose from we are in sad shape.
I won 25 bucks on this internet thing and was having it dds's into my account when I got a homeboy security site block saying I had to fill out their page before I could make the deposit. 25 bucks? You can barely get through Mc Dildo's with 3 people on 25 bucks.
I won't fly anymore unless I have to. And to think I was stupid enough to want to go play contractor for these ass munch nerds.
I talked to some Brits who were going to the same concourse and they couldn't believe what they saw, they said it isn't that bad security wise until you hit the USA, home of the free!
Some folks can't see why I get so pissed, but I was raised to believe the stuff happening here only happened in other countries and that is why it was cool to be American.
If this is what it has come to, then whats the point? Canada? Jeff Davis was happily exiled in Canada, my ancestors migrated down from there, could be time to go back.
If all our political system can produce is Kerry and Bush for us to chose from we are in sad shape.
Let them call me a rebel and I welcome it, I feel no concern from it; but I should suffer the misery of demons were I to make a whore of my soul. (Thomas Paine)
Whitey,
Sorry to hear about that awful incident at the airport.
I am not looking forward to my immigration procedure when I enter the US.
About Kerry and Co.
I was listening to BBC5Live last night and I heard that the New Post got it wrong, they said Gepthart (sp ?) would be the future VP nominee.
Also, the fact that Edwards was a Trial Lawyer may put people off trusting him and that he has served only one term as Senator (thats what the Bush's camp are saying ).
I guess lawyers are not very popular in the US then. I thought it was dentists.
Sorry to hear about that awful incident at the airport.
I am not looking forward to my immigration procedure when I enter the US.
About Kerry and Co.
I was listening to BBC5Live last night and I heard that the New Post got it wrong, they said Gepthart (sp ?) would be the future VP nominee.
Also, the fact that Edwards was a Trial Lawyer may put people off trusting him and that he has served only one term as Senator (thats what the Bush's camp are saying ).
I guess lawyers are not very popular in the US then. I thought it was dentists.
Well Marina this election won't change much of anything, we are in so deep right now if Bush can't get us out then Kerry sure ain't. We could be looking at the last years of the Empire and FDR's whole rotten New Deal. What a deal it was.
People here are divided 50/50 and angry. People used to joke about politics, but now folks get mad as hell.
It is Edwards and Kerry, Edwards being a trial lawyer doesn't get any more republicans over to the democratic lines. It just causes deeper division and anomisity. You got Americans wanting to kick eachothers asses. I know what I'm going to do to, I'm gettin me some popcorn!
People here are divided 50/50 and angry. People used to joke about politics, but now folks get mad as hell.
It is Edwards and Kerry, Edwards being a trial lawyer doesn't get any more republicans over to the democratic lines. It just causes deeper division and anomisity. You got Americans wanting to kick eachothers asses. I know what I'm going to do to, I'm gettin me some popcorn!
Let them call me a rebel and I welcome it, I feel no concern from it; but I should suffer the misery of demons were I to make a whore of my soul. (Thomas Paine)
A lot has been said about Kerry's military service. This is something I came across at a website called Motherjones.com. No idea what it is exactly but this is something about Bush' military service:
February 1968:
Bush takes an Air Force officers test. Scores in 25th percentile in the pilot
aptitude portion. Declares that he does not wish to serve overseas.
May 27, 1968:
Bush enlists in Texas Air National Guard. Aided by Texas House Speaker Ben Barnes, he jumps over waiting list. He pledges two years of active duty and four years of reserve duty.
September 1968:
After basic training, Bush pulls inactive duty to act as gopher on Florida Senator Edward J. Gurney's campaign.
March 1970:
Bush gets his wings.
Spring 1971:
Hired by Texas agricultural importer, Bush uses F-102 to shuttle tropical plants from Florida.
May 26, 1972:
Transfers to Alabama Guard unit so he can work on Senator William Blount's reelection campaign. According to his commanding officer, Bush never shows up for duty while in Alabama, nor can anyone confirm he ever serves in the Guard again.
October 1, 1973:
The Air National Guard relieves Bush from commitment eight months early, allowing him to attend Harvard Business School.
February 1968:
Bush takes an Air Force officers test. Scores in 25th percentile in the pilot
aptitude portion. Declares that he does not wish to serve overseas.
May 27, 1968:
Bush enlists in Texas Air National Guard. Aided by Texas House Speaker Ben Barnes, he jumps over waiting list. He pledges two years of active duty and four years of reserve duty.
September 1968:
After basic training, Bush pulls inactive duty to act as gopher on Florida Senator Edward J. Gurney's campaign.
March 1970:
Bush gets his wings.
Spring 1971:
Hired by Texas agricultural importer, Bush uses F-102 to shuttle tropical plants from Florida.
May 26, 1972:
Transfers to Alabama Guard unit so he can work on Senator William Blount's reelection campaign. According to his commanding officer, Bush never shows up for duty while in Alabama, nor can anyone confirm he ever serves in the Guard again.
October 1, 1973:
The Air National Guard relieves Bush from commitment eight months early, allowing him to attend Harvard Business School.
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Frank S.
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A somewhat in-depth analysis of Bush's military records. A tad partisan but well documented and not particularly pretty.
http://www.glcq.com/
http://www.glcq.com/
