Hey Im gazz and I've just decided to train for the marines in preperation for the last 18 months of my apprenticeship.
Its a long way away you might think but so am I. I play rugby and have a physical job (climbing poles). Im 5'8 16 stone and im around 25% bodyfat. I've started doing early morning runs for about 40 minutes (3-4 miles) every other day and every inbertween day I complete a endurance gym routine (medium wieghts followed by bodywieght)
I also have rugby training/matches and I eat healthily but Im finding the process very hard
apart from introducing myself this is a future success story for those who may be overwieght and looking to join the forces but afraid to try.
so any advice or help would be ideal, I already had a marine tell me I had no chance.
thanks for your time.
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bought the "fighting fit by adrian weale" and i support the recommendations on this site, its awesome as it supports a few drinks 
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I seam pretty fit for my body fat as I'm running an 8 minute mile, only problem I have with any of the fitness is chin ups, any tips on increasing them and what is the maxium needed for entry and the amount needed to be done for the end of of training.
cheers
, I seam pretty fit for my body fat as I'm running an 8 minute mile, only problem I have with any of the fitness is chin ups, any tips on increasing them and what is the maxium needed for entry and the amount needed to be done for the end of of training.
cheers
Depending on how bad you are on you're chin ups (If you're doing say less than 5) what I would do is get a chair or box and place It underneath your chin up bar so that when you stand on it you're head is already above the bar, then from there lower your self as slowly as you can (the slower the better) until your arms are fully stretched out then get back on the chair and repeat.Gazz2345 wrote:bought the "fighting fit by adrian weale" and i support the recommendations on this site, its awesome as it supports a few drinks
I seam pretty fit for my body fat as I'm running an 8 minute mile, only problem I have with any of the fitness is chin ups, any tips on increasing them and what is the maxium needed for entry and the amount needed to be done for the end of of training.
cheers
Do this for a few weeks and you'll find when you come to lift up from the ground you are much stronger than before.
It's hard to explain without actualy showing you, but I've done my best.
Hope tht helps mate. EE.
EDIT: Basicly whats been said above, guess there are more people with a sub to Soldier Magazine 
Hi mate, this was covered in this months Soldier Magazine so I will type what it says:
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Definition of Pull Ups-
Pullups (or Heaves in Army terms) are a key aspect in military physical training. Being able to lift your own body weight of the ground is a crutial skill.
Normal Pull up-
Stand beneath a pull up bar with both feet together and take a hold of it with a underhand grip (palm facing towards you) with hands slightly more shoulder width apart. Pull yourself up towards the bar, bending the elbows and keeping legs and feet locked together. Your chin must clear the top of the bar to count as a rep then slowly lower and continue.
Make it Easier-
If you cannot manage a full Pull Up use a block or partner to help you get into the raised possition (elbows bent and head above the bar) and then slowly lower. working the downward phase will help to strengthen the muscles needed.
Make it Harder-
Insted of using a underhand grip use a overhand grip (palms facing away).
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I reccomend this book mate the Official Army Fitness guide-
http://www.guardianbooks.co.uk/webapp/w ... earch_army
Hi mate, this was covered in this months Soldier Magazine so I will type what it says:
'
Definition of Pull Ups-
Pullups (or Heaves in Army terms) are a key aspect in military physical training. Being able to lift your own body weight of the ground is a crutial skill.
Normal Pull up-
Stand beneath a pull up bar with both feet together and take a hold of it with a underhand grip (palm facing towards you) with hands slightly more shoulder width apart. Pull yourself up towards the bar, bending the elbows and keeping legs and feet locked together. Your chin must clear the top of the bar to count as a rep then slowly lower and continue.
Make it Easier-
If you cannot manage a full Pull Up use a block or partner to help you get into the raised possition (elbows bent and head above the bar) and then slowly lower. working the downward phase will help to strengthen the muscles needed.
Make it Harder-
Insted of using a underhand grip use a overhand grip (palms facing away).
'
I reccomend this book mate the Official Army Fitness guide-
http://www.guardianbooks.co.uk/webapp/w ... earch_army
Ah rate and yeah its a great magazine for keeping up with everything in the Forces. Also sent you a PMEagleEyes wrote:Na mate I've not signed up to that solider magazine just go to the gym a lot so I've learned little things like that. Is the Solider magazine any good?
BTW Tom check you PM box mate.
EDIT: It wont let me PM you for some reason Tom, but what part of Notts you from? I'm from sherwood mate.
Heyup Gaz,
In response to above, if you're going for the Corps only bother with overhand (palms away) pull-ups. Assisted chin machines in the gym can help get you started if you're struggling to do more than 3; otherwise, just do lots, you'll get there. A pull-up bar in a doorway at home (or suitable beam etc) will help no end. There are various pyramid programs and so on on here and on Google, but if you max out every time you walk through that door you'll see fairly fast improvement.
Oh, and scrap Soldier, get the Globe and Laurel, your AFCO may be able to get you a few issues for free, subscription's cheap as chips anyhow.
Being built like a prop you'll obviously need to lose weight to meet the Corps' standards; but you should already be plenty fit enough, once your diet and work-out routines are adjusted so the weight drops off I don't imagine you'll have too much trouble meeting entry criteria. Stick with it.
In response to above, if you're going for the Corps only bother with overhand (palms away) pull-ups. Assisted chin machines in the gym can help get you started if you're struggling to do more than 3; otherwise, just do lots, you'll get there. A pull-up bar in a doorway at home (or suitable beam etc) will help no end. There are various pyramid programs and so on on here and on Google, but if you max out every time you walk through that door you'll see fairly fast improvement.
Oh, and scrap Soldier, get the Globe and Laurel, your AFCO may be able to get you a few issues for free, subscription's cheap as chips anyhow.
Being built like a prop you'll obviously need to lose weight to meet the Corps' standards; but you should already be plenty fit enough, once your diet and work-out routines are adjusted so the weight drops off I don't imagine you'll have too much trouble meeting entry criteria. Stick with it.
This is the best way to do it by far,druadan wrote:but if you max out every time you walk through that door you'll see fairly fast improvement.
I went for doing 4-5 to easily doing 10-12 in about 8 weeks.
On the beams, like the ones used for selection, you get a better grasp, so you'll find you can pull out even more on the day.
If i've got it right CTC training staff like the overhand grasp too..? so might be worth getting some of those in if you can, they are alot more difficult as they recruit your back muscles, so there's less focus on the arms.
update
hey guys. I haven't been on in ages as I have had two accidents. tore my achilles tendon and after healed after that I've had a hench RTC which left me almost loosing my arm (between road and Van as It was sliding accross tarmack) so I've been working on my basic fitness and not being a pussey generally.
after my last accident I had a bleep test which was 5.3 now its 6.8. from doing 1 pull up I can now do 3(or 4 bad ones) 43 press ups and 40 sit ups.
obviousely the bleep test is apauling but how does the body exercises sound? I'm guessing that my bleep test should be at 12?
last 5 months have been hard but have proberly helped me harden up and get the mindset for joining as stuff has stoped me from joining the only think I can think about doing with my life, and after getting really unfit keeping positive and just "doing it" is seeing me improve. I even went and got the application form my AFCO, gonna hand it in tomorrow.
cheers guys
after my last accident I had a bleep test which was 5.3 now its 6.8. from doing 1 pull up I can now do 3(or 4 bad ones) 43 press ups and 40 sit ups.
obviousely the bleep test is apauling but how does the body exercises sound? I'm guessing that my bleep test should be at 12?
last 5 months have been hard but have proberly helped me harden up and get the mindset for joining as stuff has stoped me from joining the only think I can think about doing with my life, and after getting really unfit keeping positive and just "doing it" is seeing me improve. I even went and got the application form my AFCO, gonna hand it in tomorrow.
cheers guys
