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_chris
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Post by _chris »

Certainly I'm in a minority in the college in wanting to join the armed forces, but certainly not shunned by the rest of the student body as a result of it. Theres mixed responses from people who respect the fact that your joing up; to people who see the forces as the bottom of the barrel, 'But Chris why don't you just work harder and get a good job' :roll: . However I feel that even from those who really see the forces as below them they don't treat me much differently, except for a few pitying stares now and then. As others have said, the reaction from girls is usually the same, 'but you could die!'.

Tutors are usually shocked when you describe you ambitions to them, I was once told 'oh yeah all boys want to play with guns, but lets look at a real job aswell' during a careers meeting with me my tutor and parents. And another spent an entire general progress review session trying to talk me out of my future plans; however this served a purpose as whenever I was called in for getting in trouble of some sort he'ld revert to our old forces/not forces discussion rather than concentrate on the issue at hand.

I was also never made prefect in my school even though requesting it after being encouraged by my AFCO, and gaining support from a lot of the other students, and the impression giving was it was felt a waste of a student with my aims - bear in mind 60% of our student body were made prefects, 5% of which did any of their duties and about 10% were stripped of their badges by the end of the year for drug offences etc.

I am going through Uni, a fairly serious injury last year made me suddenly panic that I needed a back up plan and it was very touch and go whether I could have got myself into this years batch (I doubt I would've been able to), so the whole UCAS thing doesn't bother me; but I could easily see how it could, there are loads of day off timetable at our college for UCAS applications etc. and the whole system constantly pushes towards university, and acts as if there is no other feasible option but to go to univesity and then onwards into a job in manegement, a lawyer or a doctor.

On the whole I've never felt a problem with the rest of the student body, but with the attitudes of teachers and tutors. Teachers seem ti have one goal in their eyes for which all students could aim, and they do not see forces as a real goal to aim for. The amount of criticism I had to face from tutors because of my gooal was quite bad really, and could put a lot of people off going for this goal.

And in a different experience to PAGreenwell, throughout the whole school and college system I never felt I was seen as anything other than a potential grade walking round by the overall school. While obviously there are the teachers and tutors who take genuine interest in you, as a whole I've never felt it was really there. In fact I feel now that the tutors I have in college look at the person much more than the majority did in school.
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Post by Brows »

I was still at 6th form in June and I was always thought of as a bit of a nutter for wanting to gain a RM commission. Don't get me wrong my aims and career path were highly respected with many comments like "I couldn't do something like that" but also with comments like "Why do you want to do that?"
I usually replied "For the money". Truth be told I haven't a clue why I want this life, all I know is I want it. I try to fit reasons why I want it; serve my country, challenging career, help people, travel the world etc. All the people I spoke to on my POC and AIB felt the same.

I never felt I was an underclass but I certainly felt like the minority. I believe I could count the number of people who would volunteer for our country in my college on one hand.
Everyone knew I wanted to join the Marines, even my teachers. Strangely enough they seemed to see myself being in the class as more as a inconvenient necessity which required minimum effort rather than someone who needed to be there.

Many of the people who I knew that were going to University (almost all of them) were only going there because they didn't know what they want to do with their life. Using the time to grow up and set a course. I already had my course and was aiming at it dead on, that was the only thing that made me feel different. My drive, my determination, my aim, my focus. Everyone else was just content with the next day, whereas I was looking at the next ten.
The only people who had an issue with me join (ooooooooh, it's an illegal war and you're going to be part of it) were either swiftly dealt with with a few words or were promptly avoided.

After my POC (literally the day after) I had one of my A-level examinations (whilst being tired, battered and broken). It was amazing the sense of superiority I had over everyone. Worth every drop of sweat and second of pain.

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POC: 04/06/07 -Passed
AIB: 02/07/07 -Fail, needed more life experience

Intend to re-apply after I have gone to university

Read my diaries in the RM archives section THEN PM me if you have a question
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Post by Scott_Allen »

I am deffinatly a minority,

my parents hate the thought, but my grandad who was Royal Engineers and my Uncle was green jackets & SAS want nothing more that for me to do it.

The reason why I want the life is because I seriously cant think of doing anything else. The only reason I stayed to do a-levels was for my Dad, and for the fact that, if I screwed up in the marines ild have somthing to fall back on my arse on.

But I hate the idea of Uni... I just want to go.

People at my school dont understand, and I try to explain but I just cant, so they end up just accepting it lol...
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Post by Wholley »

Mr_Kiwi wrote: I think here in the UK and most commonwealth countries the armed forces are seen with a little bit more respect than the US views their armed forces, which is a shame really.
I don't completely agree with the above as we have parades and such for returning troops.
The major difference being that many regiments are raised from the same community in the US which is not the case any longer in the UK.
The problem as I see it in the US is a MINORITY of teachers/lecturers/hippy parents trying to get ROTC banned from schools along with recruiters for the NG and regular forces.
For a young person there is a lot to be gained from the Military(IMHO)
The GI Bill pays for your college tuition and you gain skills which will help when you return to civvy street.
There are the obvious pitfalls.
You might get killed or maimed,Suffer PTSD or your wife may leave you(Not sure wether thats a pitfall or not) :wink:
The VA seems to do a better job looking after Veterans than the British government.

Anyway I'm blathering so just to enlarge the debate.,
How do you see your furtures in the Services and beyond?

Please humor me as I'm bored and old. :P
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