I was training consistently 6days a week for the best part of 4/5months, usually involved running and weight training. I've always been pretty strong as ive been lifting weights on and off for a fair few years now, but I ignored the jogging side of things, mostly due to my previous job I rarely had the time. However after i lost my job at easter I have been concentrating on jogging and have been running at a speed to get to the 21min target of 3miles.
After the fourth month I was approcahing being able to run 3miles when 1 week my body was shattered and I was barely able to do 2miles without literally being sick. My doctor told me to take a week break, but I got lazy and ended up having a 2week break. When i returned to training last week I noticed that now I can barely run 1mile without having to stop yet my strength in weight training is still there. This is very frustrating as it feels like I am back at where I started a few months ago !
dont wory m8. just keep up the running and youll improve rapidly because ur body is already used to running your stamina will increae quik. whereas somebody who never runs and start will take a while to improve because theyer not used to it
Concentrate on making the distance with your runs even if it means you are not making the grade with regards to time. Once you've nailed the distance not only will it give you confidence, but you should find you can do it quicker each time as long as you continue to push yourself.
ive trained on/off for years,mostly with weights and from my experience and through research,ive found that you lose muscle 3 times faster than you gain it,so for example 6 weeks of training will be lost in 2 weeks of inactivity,obviously there's more factors but thats a good rough guide.With regard to CV fitness,it takes around 3-4 weeks for the SAID principle to apply and the heart and lunges to get fitter,so in a sense training results always have a small time lag,and this is why a short break of a few days wont do any harm because your body is still adapting to the previous training,has time to recover,and comes back stronger.Low intensity training is a good idea instead of complete rest,ie/sitting on your arse all the time.Ive found out the hard way that sporadic on/off training no matter how intense is hugely counterproductive.The most important aspect of training is consistency.
Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that, if the British Empire and its Commonwealth last for a thousand years, men will still say, 'This was their finest hour'
I would love to know where you obtained that information from degrees of passion.
It is common knowledge that atrophy does not set in for atleast 3-4 weeks whilst your muscles are inactive.
Many powerlifter's take the standard 6 weeks on 1-2 weeks off, to allow any slight niggles or strains to fully recover from the huge impact. I don't think anyone would train for a month and a half then decide to rest and completely reverse the effects.
degrees of passion wrote:... from my experience and through research,ive found that you lose muscle 3 times faster than you gain it,so for example 6 weeks of training will be lost in 2 weeks of inactivity...
Not so sure about this one mate, if you've got some research let us have it, or give us the link to the abstract at least.
two weeks? i think this would probly benifit you aslong as it wasnt two weeks on the piss, stay nurished and hydrated and that kind of a break would be okay , but what you do find is you ache badly when you havent warmed up enough for it, and your not used to it, the two miles and then your sick comment must be a mentle block mate,
i cant see two weeks having this affect on you, just ignore the time, pace your self into it, i like having rests now of up to 4 days as on the day i start to train again i feel brand new and unstoppable, i used to laugh reading the prmc guide telling you not to train 3 days prior to ctc, thinking you would loose fitness , but you gain so much energy.
Yeh i agree with smudger. I am a bit silly but i have been running everyday monday to friday and having the weekend off. By thursday i ache but i run through this. I usually get my best time on monday tuesday and wednesday. Mondays i feel new and i can run so well.
I too laughed at the PRMC three day non training before attending rule and swore that i would train up until the day i left but from my 5 weeks solid running experince i would have two days rest before attending. Im going to be cutting my running down to three or four days from now on to allow my legs to recover because at the moment im hobbling around everywhere.
A couple of days wont do u any harm, in fact you WILL run better than u have done before.
yeah cool, thanks for the replies. I think another reason as to why i was stopping before i had that big rest was because when i go running i use the school 400m running field as its only over the road, but mainly as i know how far i am running so i can set myself targets. I think the problem with this is i got bored very quickly as you can imagine 12 laps(3miles) round the same track everynight can get boaring! Last night i went running round the village and through various public footpaths and only had the 1 rest.
Im going to continue doing different routes now as I found out on google earth you can plot a track and it will tell you the exact distance so i wont have to worry about running round the track over and over to get accurate distances
Once back in the mists of time I knackered me right knee doing roller haulage up Jennycliffe near Guz. Spent two months in Hospital then another six weeks wearing a plastercast from my ankle up to my arsecheek.
All in all I spent nearly four months on the biff list. Come the day I was declared fully fit I rejoined my Troop in Alfa Coy 40CDORM. That afternoon we did a smally 6 mile speedmarch followed by section and troop attacks on Dartmoor. I hacked it but was well and truely knackered come the end.
The point I'm trying to make is that a large part of your training at CTCRM involves getting you head sorted out to believe that you can do anything at anytime when pushed. I was 18/19 years of age with confidence coming out of my ears when I injured myself.
My mindset on the day of the speedmarch was along the lines of not letting down the other lads in the troop even though I was far from 100% fit. Back at Company Lines my Tp Sgt came up to me, smacked me on the back and said "Well Done SKIN, same again in the morning then?" That really bucked me up in no uncertain terms. It may sound sad to some but thats what we were all like and I presume the average Bootneck is still like it.
well that bit about losing muscle 3 times as fast as you put it on is only a rough estimate,and its what ive been told by mates who have a strong training background,but from my experience with weights its not far off to be honest,because dont forget if your starting from scratch it takes a while to break your body into it,and only after the consistency comes the gains,its no good doing a couple of weeks then resting for one,you need to sufficiently shock your body to initiate the changes you want,and personally i think you need to give it 4 weeks of training before you have anything like a week off.
Sorry if i didnt make myself clear but i was referring to those who have had a long break from training or are starting from scratch or who only train now and again due to lack of time etc,obviously this is not going to be as applicable to most of you lot who train regularly,in which case yes it is wholly beneficial to have the rests which you've mentioned.
Thats just my opinion from the info i've accumalated over the years both from personal experience and also wider reading,like everything training orientated,there's alot of different opinions floating around and many many conflicting articles done by 'porfessionals',you only have to buy two different mens health magazines and you can see that one month they tell you one thing then the next a new 'revolutionary' method has been discovered.
Maybe i was a little wrong in saying 6 weeks of training is wiped out in two weeks of inactivity,cos like i said theres so many other factors.For example,if you dont train for 4 weeks you definately lose muscle size and strength,however once you start again you'll put it back on much quicker than someone who never trained at all before the 4 weeks.
Like i say though its about being sensible with your rest,not sitting around all day doing f-all but maybe do some very low intensity training which has been proved to help recovery(as the professional football and rugby trainers advocate),low impact stuff like swimming,and its like with the weights,you dont go out and do a full body workout all the time,but you alternate each day so as to give your muscles sufficent rest,ie:chest and tri's mon,back and bi's tue,shoulders legs and abs wed,then repeat.
Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that, if the British Empire and its Commonwealth last for a thousand years, men will still say, 'This was their finest hour'
